I should add that the research-and-data team is also on board with this approach. Honestly, I think it's a little silly that we make the distinction between methodological expertise when we split the team up.
But "thick data", come on. We can get a better term than that? How about "meaningful measurements"? Or we could just call it "competent application of methods". -Aaron On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Jonathan Morgan <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for sharing this, Asaf and Raul. The design research team is > (obviously) onboard with this approach. > > Related: here's a post on doing ethnographic work in a Wikipedia context, > written for Medium by veteran Wikiresearcher Heather Ford: > https://medium.com/ethnography-matters/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-participant-observer-in-a-place-like-wikipedia-89d6727276ba#.8yo56x7gk > > Jonathan "I dearly miss my Nokia 925" Morgan > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:04 AM, Toby Negrin <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Asaf -- >> >> Thanks for sharing this. It's a good article and there's a lot to agree >> with. Certainly there's a clear need for both qualitative and quantitive >> research and figuring out how to combine them is a worthwhile challenge. A >> lot of modern productive development practices stress empathy, meeting >> users where they are along with big data and we're certainly aspiring to >> this level of work in the Reading team. >> >> Where I think the Foundation and the Movement struggle is on the >> evaluation side and I don't think the article addresses this issue >> particularly well. Measuring the impact of non-profit work has always been >> challenging and will continue to be so. It's certainly true that the >> emphasis on big data has been less helpful here. >> >> Finally, since I can't resist, Nokia failed because they didn't do >> ethnographic research on their existing users in Europe and North America, >> not potential users across the planet and missed the fact that people would >> be thrilled to trade in their candy-bar phones for fancy iphones and >> androids! >> >> -Toby >> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:34 AM, Marcel Ruiz Forns <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Awesome reading, I liked it a lot. >>> Thanks! >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Asaf Bartov <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Estonian Wikipedian Raul Veede, User:Oop, asked to relay this link to >>>> "the metrics people", so I am sending it here and to the Community >>>> Engagement team at the Wikimedia Foundation. >>>> >>>> <http://goog_433392935> >>>> >>>> https://medium.com/ethnography-matters/why-big-data-needs-thick-data-b4b3e75e3d7#.xxhn4bpvc >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> A. >>>> -- >>>> Asaf Bartov >>>> Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org> >>>> >>>> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share >>>> in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! >>>> https://donate.wikimedia.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Analytics mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Marcel Ruiz Forns* >>> Analytics Developer >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Analytics mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Analytics mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> >> > > > -- > Jonathan T. Morgan > Senior Design Researcher > Wikimedia Foundation > User:Jmorgan (WMF) <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jmorgan_(WMF)> > > > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > >
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