That message would be the perfect opportunity to do GOOD by removing the numbers and saying "please update your applications with the phone number you wish shown, if any."
I don't think it is unreasonable to say that even if it is a non-majority of developers affected, releasing that much personal information - effectively with no warning - is bad, and correcting it with nothing more than a minor inconvenience would be good. I agree with the developers who feel "we won't distribute" should also mean "or sucker you into distributing.." But we're always on different sides of these things so .. :) On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > > Stoyan, > > Don't get me wrong, I think what happened was an almight **** up on > Googles part that, if decent QA measures were in place, should *never* > have been made. > > Thats said a blanket removal of all 'phone numbers is going to cause > more problems than it'll solve, but I am still waiting for Google to > send out one of their Market Update emails to alert developers to the > problem and show the solution. > > Al. > > > Stoyan Damov wrote: > > Al, while you are right (and so is the opposing side) it's Google > > who's to blame for this. > > Assumption is the mother of all evil, and Google assumed devs would > > want their phone copied from their profile, instead of providing one > > f...@#$ing checkbox on the registration (or publishing) page asking for > > that. > > > > Where's the "do no evil" in this, huh? > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > > > >> How do you know 99.9% developers don't want to provide 'phone support? > >> Have you asked every single developer on the market? > >> > >> I didn't say that Google must provide the information for everyone > >> because some people wan to provide it, what I said was there is no easy > >> way to determine those who do want to provide it and those who don't, > >> and for those who don't want to provide it a method of removing the > >> information has already been provided. > >> > >> Al. > >> > >> Mattaku Betsujin wrote: > >> > >>> I didn't enter a support number. Google copied it from my developer > >>> profile. > >>> > >>> As I said in my last mail, 99.9% of the developers don't want to > >>> provide phone support. > >>> > >>> By your logic, Google may as well list my home address because *some* > >>> developers may want to provide free full body massage to their users. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com > >>> <mailto:a...@funkyandroid.com>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Some of the 'phone numbers are most likely valid support numbers > >>> entered > >>> by developers to offer users support. > >>> > >>> Can you suggest a method for Google to use to distinguish between > >>> those > >>> people who checked the application profile and entered a number > they > >>> wanted to be used and those who uploaded their app, published it, > >>> didn't > >>> check the details, and hence have their number on show? > >>> > >>> Al. > >>> > >>> Mattaku Betsujin wrote: > >>> > I have read his thread and changed my number to that of Paris > >>> Hilton. > >>> > So if anyone wants to talk to a hot girl for support, get my app! > >>> > > >>> > But regardless, Google still should remove the phone numbers. > >>> This is > >>> > insane. > >>> > > >>> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com > >>> <mailto:a...@funkyandroid.com> > >>> > <mailto:a...@funkyandroid.com <mailto:a...@funkyandroid.com>>> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Read the thread JBQ has pointed you at. It shows how to > >>> remove your > >>> > 'phone number, and tells you why it's being shown. > >>> > > >>> > Al. > >>> > > >>> > Mattaku Betsujin wrote: > >>> > > Please take remove the number for ALL apps NOW! > >>> > > > >>> > > Who in their right mind would think of providing phone > >>> tech support > >>> > > for a .99 app? This is ridiculous! > >>> > > > >>> > > Those developers who are desperate for human contact are > >>> free to put > >>> > > their phone numbers on their web sites. > >>> > > > >>> > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru > >>> > <j...@android.com <mailto:j...@android.com> > >>> <mailto:j...@android.com <mailto:j...@android.com>> > >>> > > <mailto:j...@android.com <mailto:j...@android.com> > >>> <mailto:j...@android.com <mailto:j...@android.com>>>> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread/e3772a897dbb0080/ff4eca3dca2fc7de#ff4eca3dca2fc7de > >>> > > > >>> > > JBQ > >>> > > > >>> > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Mattaku Betsujin > >>> > > <mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com > >>> <mailto:mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com> > >>> > <mailto:mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com > >>> <mailto:mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com>> > >>> > <mailto:mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com > >>> <mailto:mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com> > >>> > <mailto:mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com > >>> <mailto:mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com>>>> > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > Google, please tell me this is a big foul up. Today > >>> my phone > >>> > > number appeared > >>> > > > in the Market listing of my app, and my answering > >>> machine > >>> > is full of > >>> > > > messages by people saying how much they like my app. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I though the phone number will never be listed. How > >>> dare you! > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > -- > >>> > > Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru > >>> > > Android Engineer, Google. > >>> > > > >>> > > Please don't contact me directly. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > > >>> > * Written an Android App? - List it at > http://andappstore.com/ * > >>> > > >>> > ====== > >>> > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with > the > >>> > company number 6741909. 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