On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:56 AM, polyclefsoftware <[email protected]> wrote:

> > > Disconnect wrote:
> > Nice try, but you need to read the -whole- agreement:
> >
> > Payment Processor(s): Any party authorized by Google to provide payment
> > processing services that enable Developers with optional Payment Accounts
> to
> > charge Device users for Products distributed via the Market.
> > Ad revenue isn't "a fee". If nobody clicks your ads, the app doesn't
> > disappear. You aren't charging the users -a fee- for the app any more
> than
> > gmail is when they show ads there..
>
> What fills you with certainty that ad revenue is clearly not a fee,
> while an in-app purchase is?
>
> Seriously, go read the whole thing. Then get legal advice. In most
countries a simple initial consultation such as this would be free. (And
they specifically say in-app purchases are banned. We covered that part
earlier.)

4.4 Prohibited Actions. [..] You may not use customer information obtained
from the Market to sell or distribute Products outside of the Market.

4.5 Non-Compete. You may not use the Market to distribute or make available
any Product whose primary purpose is to facilitate the distribution of
Products outside of the Market.
(Technically this might apply to brick&morter distribution as well - eg the
non-mp3 amazon app. Get legal advice.)

"Ad revenue is a fee charged to the user" fails the 'reasonable
person/common man' test.


> > > Check the group charter:
> >
> > *Discuss developing Android applications using the Android framework. Get
> > help with troubleshooting apps, advice on implementation, and strategies
> for
> > improving your app's speed and user experience.*
> >
> > Sorry, nothing there about getting legal advice from google..
>
> Wow, you know what? You're absolutely right, and you completely
> ignored the point that this is not a question for a third-party legal
> advisor to answer, but for *Google* to answer.
>
>
..and it STILL doesn't say "ask us about our contracts". (For that matter,
there is a market support forum. Try there.)


> The question stands, if this is not the proper venue, then how exactly
> are developers supposed to find out whether or not specific decisions
> are acceptable to Google? Mark Murphy seems to think that this
> requires executive-level contacts. I don't think that is the case.
> I've interacted with representatives from other Google services that
> were able to clarify whether or not implementation issues violated
> Google's terms of service. Is this really too much to ask for Android?
>
>


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