On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:57 PM, George | SlideME
<george.slid...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Shane,
>
> You are not aware in any way of the conversation between Martin and SlideME
> (since you were not with SlideME) or maybe where Martin missed what he
> actually needed to do that was clear in the first email to him, that he
> unfortunately did not follow.  I am sure your interests since you departed
> SlideME is to damage SlideME's image as best you can for whatever personal
> reasons you may have.
>
Ad hominem's are a sign of a weak argument. I'm keeping all my points on
target. If you are paying out to developers then you should be fine and
dandy. As I clearly stated, I don't know the general situation but what
developers like Martin and Koxx are saying is that SlideME hasn't in their
case. You say you are now dealing with it. Well great!

You aren't sure of anything, at least not where it touches reality. My
personal reasons are not to damage SlideME's image but to keep SlideME
honest with the developer community.


> You also failed to mention for the three developers you posted that had
> problems receiving a payout, that they were in contact with you during that
> time and you failed to respond in many emails from them. Fortunately I had
> means to keep in contact and remitted payouts to them from accounts you did
> not control. Many support issues also had to be resolved by phone contact
> since you lacked to follow up. So I would appreciate to not use your wrong
> doings whilst at SlideME against what SlideME is building today with great
> success.
>
I don't think you even want to go there. I'm keeping everything confidential
and I take that very seriously. Apparently, you aren't. So don't force me to
reveal such matters to defend myself (like in regards to what happened to
our mail-servers, personal e-mail accounts, and domain names last
October/November), just correct your distortions of what went on internally.



>
> Anyway, thanks for pointing out the BBB, as it needs to be fixed and handy
> for developers to know as they venture into the business world of who to
> trust and not to trust.  Don't know why you pointed it out though,
>
I pointed it out because some developers are saying SlideME is ignoring
their e-mails and not fulfilling promises of payment. Any active member of
the community would likely do the same.  I'm not sure how it is in Greece,
but in the US agencies like the BBB help resolve issues between customers
and business in a professional way, they aren't just a reporting agency.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with customers using them as a mediator
when they can't get resolution (even with honest companies).


> when SlideME's interest is to grow and support developers at best we can
> with our resources. It would not make sense for what we are pursuing if we
> did wrong against developers.
>
> Shane you may also want to check your Mikandi terms against
> http://www.copyscape.com, as it appears to be a clone of Android's Market.
> Guess, you shouldn't put your new partners in such a responsible state.
>

>
>
> re: Martin follow up issue.
>
> Helped Martin format his invoice and what he needs to include:
>
> Invoice to:  SlideME LLC  (that he missed)
> Address: companies address (also that he missed)
> Invoice #:
> ....
>
> A simple explanation of what should be included in an invoice can be found
> here: http://www.ir35calc.co.uk/how_to_prepare_an_invoice.aspx
>
>
> We have helped Martin format his invoice as we have helped many other
> developers, but as anyone can understand, we need to conduct business a
> certain way and we are not able to take all developers by the hand if they
> do not submit as we require such paperwork. I am sure many other developers
> are aware of how much more complex applications are for other stores,
> including Apple's AppStore, RIM's AppWorld, or even MS WinMo's Marketplace
> and doubt they will put in the effort as I have on a personal level to
> assist them, with our limited resources.
>
> I am more than happy for Martin to confirm if such details were mentioned
> to him in the initial lengthy explanatory email to him, and additionally
> invite even more developers to have their say.
>
> Wish to also say thank you to Paul for uploading his application to
> SlideME, considering the negativity of this thread from an ex-partner. I am
> sure Paul and many others will be well looked after as best as we can and
> have their say one day.
>
> Thanks,
> George
>
>
>
> Hi Martin,
>>
>> SlideME LLC is a Washington State based company so you have some avenues
>> you can pursue. It appears you've tried to directly resolve the issue with
>> SlideME but have been unsuccessful.  The Better Business Bureau can assist
>> you in getting such issues resolved.
>>
>>
>> https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/cibrbusiness.aspx?e=4661378&id=0927e2ab-0046-4101-9482-3ef0436b177c&site=114
>>
>> For some reason, the BBB is still listing me as the principal contact for
>> SlideME, so you do choose to report the issue, let them know that the
>> current contact is '*George Christopoulos'  *SlideME's phone number is
>> not listed on the BBB site, so it can be found here:
>> http://slideme.org/contact
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Shane
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:36 AM, mot12 <martin.hu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would not trust SlideMe.
>>>
>>> For my best selling app, I had >10,000 sales through Google Market,
>>> 900 sales via PayPal and 20 sales via SlideMe. So I stopped my sales
>>> on SlideMe and asked for a payout. They told me they only do payouts >
>>> $100. I asked if this was a scam since the vast majority of developers
>>> don't even reach that figure with them. So one guy from SlideMe sent
>>> me an email that "he was shocked I suggested fraud" and that he would
>>> of course give me my payout. I apologized and gave him by banking
>>> information and invoice. Never heard from him again. Emails to
>>> customer service have been unanswered.
>>>
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