Since Google groups won't let me edit my original post, nor let me
post this reply to your comments with my AdroitAndroid email address,
please be aware that I am the original poster.

I find the lack of trust sad and offensive... but understandable.

The application fee was meant to provide the LLC with startup cash,
not to scam anyone.  To address this concern, we have amended the
program so that THERE IS NO APPLICATION FEE, but anyone accepted as a
member must buy in, for which they will have documented proof of
ownership and a signed operating agreement.  The buy-in amount will be
determined when the number of founders is known and will be based on
the projected costs of running the start-up for six months.

Note that AdroitAndroid is not an agency.  You won't just be talent
farmed out for corporate profit.  You will be AN OWNER who SHARES in
the profit.

The founders of this organization are experienced technologists,
entrepreneurs, and management consultants who have strong professional
credentials and who can provide professional references for anyone who
has doubts about credibility.  We are doing this to HELP the
community, not hurt it.

Please email me at my adroitandroid email address if you are
interested.


On Oct 17, 2:04 pm, "Michael Martin - MM Agency" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I ABSOLUTELY 2nd what Al is saying.
>
> Like with agencies in general - if you have true potential they will NEVER
> charge you upfront.
>
> Michael Martinhttp://www.googleandblog.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Sutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 1:43 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Android developers UNITE!
>
> For anyone tempted by this please be aware that taking money up front
> with a promise of work and potential royalties is a scam that has been
> operating in the world of fashion models for a while.
>
> I know there are many on this list who wouldn't entertain this concept,
> but there may be the few who are, and for those I would recommend you
> readhttp://www.modelingscams.org/upfrontfees.htmlbefore getting involved.
>
> Al.http://andappstore.com/
>
> AdroitAndroid wrote:
> > Ladies and gentlemen,
>
> > I know many of you are working on your applications for your company
> > or for a client.  However, there are also many maverick developers out
> > there writing code on their own.  I am writing this message to invite
> > those individuals who have an app and a dream to join our virtual team
> > at AdroitAndroid.
>
> > Benefits:
> > -  AdroitAndroid will function as a community of developers that will
> > create an application development framework to which you will have
> > access.
> > -  It will serve as your personal network of experts and peer
> > developers who will be virtual resources to help you develop your
> > dream application.
> > -  Most importantly (and how this differs from an open source group),
> > AdroitAndroid will ensure that you get PAID.  Because you will become
> > a member (read: OWNER) of the LLC, you will get distributions from the
> > profits on ALL of the applications that AdroitAndroid publishes.  This
> > means you don't have to put something out on the market and just hope
> > that people buy it.  AdroitAndroid will have a promotional budget to
> > advertise and promote your applications and then send you a check for
> > a portion of the profits generated on ALL AdroitAndroid applications.
>
> > Restrictions and responsibilities:
> > -  You must apply for membership in the AdroitAndroid LLC.
> > -  There is a $200 non-refundable application fee.
> > -  All members must dedicate a (yet to be determined) set number of
> > hours to work on AdroitAndroid projects and/or management.
> > -  All members will be subject to the operating agreement.
>
> > Memberships applications will be evaluated based on criteria
> > including, but not limited to:
> > --  Work experience
> > --  Software development/management skill
> > --  Availability to work on projects
> > --  References
> > --  Creativity
> > --  Telephone interview
> > --  AdroitAndroid needs
>
> > For additional details and an application, please email me.  Also, if
> > you are interested in a leadership position with AdroitAndroid, please
> > indicate your interest and relevant experience in leading a technology
> > organization.  Thanks!
>
> > It's time to put the power of our community to work for it's members!
>
> --
> Al Sutton
>
> W:www.alsutton.com
> B: alsutton.wordpress.com
> T: twitter.com/alsutton
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