I was going for a "cheap" option to see what the base cost is. I can see 30 USD easily being eaten up with storage, customs declarations, packaging, and shipping preparations, but the UPS web site lets people see what the pure-shipping price is.
Al. Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: > Aiming for Sydney is cheating, there's a major airport right there and > probably enough deliveries every day that any address is within a few > minutes of a daily delivery route. Did you try some place in the > remote australian outback? > > (BTW, the devphones aren't shipping from Mountain View) > > JBQ > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I've checked the US costs an they're even more expensive; >> >> The cheapest UPS Mountain View -> Sydney service which takes a couple of >> days is 123.27 USD, which means that BrightStar would get about 30 USD >> which I can see as being a commercially viable amount. >> >> Al. >> >> Al Sutton wrote: >> >>> Eric, >>> >>> I've just priced up a package of a $399 item weighing 1Kg from Googles >>> US office (*Mountain view, 94043, U.S.A.) *to it's Sydney office >>> (*Sydney, 2000, Australia) with FedEx using a scheduled pickup and I >>> get 107.88 USD as the cheapest price with $112.03 as their two day >>> service, so the profit to brightstar is more like $50 USD which is >>> still over the top in my view. >>> >>> Al. >>> * >>> Eric wrote: >>> >>>> Justin, >>>> >>>> If Google is not making money out of this, then your distribution >>>> partner must be making unreasonable profits out of all the poor >>>> developers. >>>> At the RRP US$399 price, there is already substantial margin and >>>> overcharging for the shipping is NOT acceptable. >>>> The current shipping tax fee, ex tax too high, for example, Australia >>>> have free entry of up to AU$1000 which means the shipping to Australia >>>> is NOT taxed, yet someone reported the shipping fee to cost ~US$160. >>>> Last time I check, the cost to post about 1kg worth of item from US to >>>> Australia via USPS's courier service only cost like <$50, so there is >>>> at least $100 excess profit here.. >>>> >>>> Too bad our device isn't ready yet, otherwise, it will definitely be >>>> sold for much less incl shipping. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Eric >>>> Portable Electronics Ltd >>>> www.hdmp4.com >>>> >>>> On Dec 12, 5:30 am, "Justin (Google Employee)" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Peekay, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the feedback, you can be sure that we're learning from our >>>>> experience with this developer device program. Google isn't making any >>>>> money from the Android Dev Phone 1, since we are not selling them. We >>>>> are working with our distribution partner to make the process better. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Justin >>>>> Android Team @ Google >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 10, 11:23 am, Peekay <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Justin for the response. I did place an order right after >>>>>> starting this thread, despite the cost. Just some suggestions since >>>>>> clarification / changes are apparently on the way: >>>>>> 1. Please do itemize the costs. $264 shipping is seriously >>>>>> out-of- >>>>>> whack for a $399 phone, even accounting for actual shipping costs, >>>>>> brokerage fees, and import taxes. The import taxes should only be >>>>>> around $55. Brokerage fees are usually already included with UPS's >>>>>> Express or Expedited levels. So that means Canadians are paying about >>>>>> $200+ in "shipping and handling" which seems really steep to charge >>>>>> indy developers. >>>>>> 2. If we're going to pay that much for shipping, be >>>>>> transparent about >>>>>> the shipping method. When I ordered, only *after* I paid that a >>>>>> message appeared stating that shipping could take up to three days. I >>>>>> felt like a total chump for paying $200+ for three day shipping on a >>>>>> phone (when our US cousins get free shipping apparently.) Really, I >>>>>> felt like I've been had. >>>>>> 3. Again if we're going to be charged so much for shipping, >>>>>> please at >>>>>> least give us a tracking number. I got a confirmation email with an >>>>>> "order number" but no obvious way to see the status of that order >>>>>> anywhere. I ordered a couple of days ago, and I have no idea if the >>>>>> phone has even shipped yet!! >>>>>> 4. As you know there's a lot of negative press already on this >>>>>> shipping issue, on Engadget, CNET, PC World, etc. I know the last >>>>>> thing Google wants is being seen as nickel-and-diming indy developers, >>>>>> but that's the perception out there right now. $264 buys a lot of >>>>>> Ramen. :-) So please really consider cheaper shipping options in the >>>>>> future. (It's too late for me, but I'm sure my fellow international >>>>>> coders would appreciate it.) >>>>>> I'm a believer in Android and that's why I placed my order >>>>>> right away >>>>>> even with the outrageous shipping cost. I know Google will take care >>>>>> of us developers, despite these initial issues. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> -- >> ====== >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >> company number 6741909. 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