Any apps on the paid market, Incognito? take care, Muthu Ramadoss.
http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz +91-9840348914 http://androidrocks.in - Android Consulting. On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Incognito <[email protected]> wrote: > Looks can be deceiving > > > On Feb 14, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Muthu Ramadoss <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Haha.. you were incognito and i was just wondering. You sound like a friend > i knew once :) > > take care, > Muthu Ramadoss. > > <http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz>http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914 > <http://androidrocks.in>http://androidrocks.in - Android Consulting. > > > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:53 AM, Incognito < <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Who me? USA. Why? >> >> >> On Feb 14, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Muthu Ramadoss < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> IC, you live in US or India? >> >> take care, >> Muthu Ramadoss. >> >> <http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz> <http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz> >> http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz +91-9840348914 >> <http://androidrocks.in> <http://androidrocks.in>http://androidrocks.in- >> Android Consulting. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Incognito < >> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I know, I'm all for it too. Just felt like ranting. >>> >>> >>> On Feb 14, 2009, at 5:31 AM, Muthu Ramadoss < >>> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> The point is making it clear to the users. I'm all for paid apps, but it >>> should be made really clear. >>> >>> take care, >>> Muthu Ramadoss. >>> >>> <http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz> >>> <http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz><http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz> >>> http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz +91-9840348914 >>> <http://androidrocks.in> <http://androidrocks.in><http://androidrocks.in> >>> http://androidrocks.in - Android Consulting. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Incognito < >>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Solution is easy. Never buy from that developer again. As a user I >>>> usually feel cheated when the owner of an app wants me to paid for it after >>>> the trial time expires. Damn him, how dare that greedy evil bastard force >>>> me >>>> to pay. Is not like he has any bills to pay after spending hundreds of >>>> hours >>>> slaving over that code. As a user, it is my way or none's way. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 14, 2009, at 3:53 AM, tekrytor < >>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> As a consumer, I find timebombs extremely negative. I would much >>>> rather install a totally FREE lite version, than something that stops >>>> working that I have to uninstall and wonder if it all got out. It >>>> makes me think EVIL of the suppliers, and plot their extraordinary >>>> rendition, waterboarding, and power-tool pedicures, etc. >>>> >>>> This brings up the topic of starting with and maintaining the >>>> "correct" terminology for everyone's benefit, including buyers, >>>> sellers and developers. User's need to know up front exactly what >>>> they're getting and exactly how much the upgrade will cost before >>>> anything at all is installed or they will feel cheated or deceived and >>>> not return to the vendor or manufacturer. Make it OBVIOUS (and short) >>>> what the customer is getting and stop with the 40 page terms and >>>> conditions. It's not necessary and it is proof of too many attorneys >>>> and EVIL intent. >>>> >>>> Google and programmers should think about the way they do business in >>>> the long term. I know it takes extra work to make a TRIAL (timebomb) >>>> or DEMO (free lite) version. But I also know that the software I enjoy >>>> using most are ones that I feel good about, for whatever reason. Any >>>> doubt ruins the relationship and the future relationship. >>>> >>>> For example: >>>> I was once burned by AOL, who kept deducting payment months after the >>>> contract terminated. So, for years whenever I saw those stacks of >>>> their free CDs at computer shops, I would grab the stack and toss it >>>> in the first trash can I saw. I was not alone, told all my friends and >>>> family, and I saw others doing the same. It was like Fight Club. "You >>>> too Man?", "Yeah, I hate AOL". Anyone who asked me about an ISP, I >>>> told them to forget AOL. Look where AOL is today. I like to think it >>>> was my grassroots campaign. >>>> >>>> My recommendation: >>>> Programmers, for your own good, think of the "taking the lollipop out >>>> of the little kid's mouth" scenario. not a good situation.. Go free >>>> lite DEMO instead of trial (timebomb). Most of you won't know this, >>>> but before there was Wallmart, there were candy stores. Good ones >>>> always gave the kids a penny candy on their way out, so they come >>>> back. most of you will never be a Wallmart, so try thinking of >>>> yourselves as a small town candy store who needs the kids to come >>>> back. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Steve the Customer >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 12, 2:40 pm, "Justin (Google Employee)" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> Al, your interpretation of the distribution agreement is incorrect. >>>> You may distribute trial version of your apps on the Market. >>>> >>>> "This is not intended to prevent distribution of free trial versions >>>> of the Product with an 'upsell' option to obtain the full version of >>>> the Product: Such free trials for Products are encouraged." >>>> >>>> What is required is that if you provide an "upsell" option to a paid >>>> version, this version must be available, and available solely through >>>> the Android Market. >>>> >>>> "However, if you want to collect fees after the free trial expires, >>>> you must collect all fees for the full version of the Product through >>>> the Payment Processor on the Market." >>>> >>>> To put it another way, you can **not** use the Android Market as a >>>> distribution channel for free, trial versions and then complete the >>>> upsell to a paid version through another channel. You can distribute a >>>> free, trial version of your application that has an expiration date, >>>> and then sell a version without an expiration, but it must be through >>>> the Android Market >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Justin >>>> Android Team @ Google >>>> >>>> On Feb 11, 6:48 am, Cédric Berger <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 14:15, Al Sutton >>>> <[email protected]<[email protected]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The originally posted question was; >>>> >>>> "I am earger to put my app onto the market, even for free (until paid >>>> apps are allowed). Is it allowed to put a time bomb in the app and make >>>> it useless after a trial period?" >>>> >>>> So, in the case that started the thread, it's against Market T&Cs to >>>> make the app available for free until paid apps are allowed and then charge >>>> for it.. >>>> >>>> Maybe but I am not so sure. >>>> If I publish an application using my server (and needing it to run), >>>> which will be online for one year, no more : I doubt the market T&Cs >>>> puts me in the obligation to keep my server online forever. And so >>>> this is indeed an application limited for 1 year. >>>> >>>> What I wanted to say is that an application said to be limited till a >>>> given date is just an application which provide this claimed >>>> functionnality. No less no more. Even when the date limit is reached, >>>> it still offer the same claimed functionnality, and is still free... >>>> but that functionnality is that it is not useable now. >>>> >>>> In case of a trial version limited in time, the paying version is to >>>> be considered a different version. And it is anyway, since it is not >>>> limited :-p ... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
