The point is making it clear to the users. I'm all for paid apps, but it
should be made really clear.

take care,
Muthu Ramadoss.

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On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Incognito <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Solution is easy. Never buy from that developer again. As a user I usually
> feel cheated when the owner of an app wants me to paid for it after the
> trial time expires. Damn him, how dare that greedy evil bastard force me to
> pay. Is not like he has any bills to pay after spending hundreds of hours
> slaving over that code. As a user, it is my way or none's way.
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2009, at 3:53 AM, tekrytor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> As a consumer, I find timebombs extremely negative. I would much
> rather install a totally FREE lite version, than something that stops
> working that I have to uninstall and wonder if it all got out. It
> makes me think EVIL of the suppliers, and plot their extraordinary
> rendition, waterboarding, and power-tool pedicures, etc.
>
> This brings up the topic of starting with and maintaining the
> "correct" terminology for everyone's benefit, including buyers,
> sellers and developers. User's need to know up front exactly what
> they're getting and exactly how much the upgrade will cost before
> anything at all is installed or they will feel cheated or deceived and
> not return to the vendor or manufacturer. Make it OBVIOUS (and short)
> what the customer is getting and stop with the 40 page terms and
> conditions. It's not necessary and it is proof of too many attorneys
> and EVIL intent.
>
> Google and programmers should think about the way they do business in
> the long term. I know it takes extra work to make a TRIAL (timebomb)
> or DEMO (free lite) version. But I also know that the software I enjoy
> using most are ones that I feel good about, for whatever reason. Any
> doubt ruins the relationship and the future relationship.
>
> For example:
> I was once burned by AOL, who kept deducting payment months after the
> contract terminated. So, for years whenever I saw those stacks of
> their free CDs at computer shops, I would grab the stack and toss it
> in the first trash can I saw. I was not alone, told all my friends and
> family, and I saw others doing the same. It was like Fight Club. "You
> too Man?", "Yeah, I hate AOL". Anyone who asked me about an ISP, I
> told them to forget AOL. Look where AOL is today. I like to think it
> was my grassroots campaign.
>
> My recommendation:
> Programmers, for your own good, think of the "taking the lollipop out
> of the little kid's mouth" scenario. not a good situation.. Go free
> lite DEMO instead of trial (timebomb). Most of you won't know this,
> but before there was Wallmart, there were candy stores. Good ones
> always gave the kids a penny candy on their way out, so they come
> back. most of you will never be a Wallmart, so try thinking of
> yourselves as a small town candy store who needs the kids to come
> back.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve the Customer
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2:40 pm, "Justin (Google Employee)" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> Al, your interpretation of the distribution agreement is incorrect.
> You may distribute trial version of your apps on the Market.
>
> "This is not intended to prevent distribution of free trial versions
> of the Product with an 'upsell' option to obtain the full version of
> the Product: Such free trials for Products are encouraged."
>
> What is required is that if you provide an "upsell" option to a paid
> version, this version must be available, and available solely through
> the Android Market.
>
> "However, if you want to collect fees after the free trial expires,
> you must collect all fees for the full version of the Product through
> the Payment Processor on the Market."
>
> To put it another way, you can **not** use the Android Market as a
> distribution channel for free, trial versions and then complete the
> upsell to a paid version through another channel. You can distribute a
> free, trial version of your application that has an expiration date,
> and then sell a version without an expiration, but it must be through
> the Android Market
>
> Cheers,
> Justin
> Android Team @ Google
>
> On Feb 11, 6:48 am, Cédric Berger <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 14:15, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The originally posted question was;
>
> "I am earger to put my app onto the market, even for free (until paid
> apps are allowed). Is it allowed to put a time bomb in the app and make
> it useless after a trial period?"
>
> So, in the case that started the thread, it's against Market T&Cs to make
> the app available for free until paid apps are allowed and then charge for
> it.
>
> Maybe but I am not so sure.
> If I publish an application using my server (and needing it to run),
> which will be online for one year, no more : I doubt the market T&Cs
> puts me in the obligation to keep my server online forever. And so
> this is indeed an application limited for 1 year.
>
> What I wanted to say is that an application said to be limited till a
> given date is just an application which provide this claimed
> functionnality. No less no more. Even when the date limit is reached,
> it still offer the same claimed functionnality, and is still free...
> but that functionnality is that it is not useable now.
>
> In case of a trial version limited in time, the paying version is to
> be considered a different version. And it is anyway, since it is not
> limited :-p ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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