IC, you live in US or India? take care, Muthu Ramadoss.
http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz +91-9840348914 http://androidrocks.in - Android Consulting. On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Incognito <[email protected]> wrote: > I know, I'm all for it too. Just felt like ranting. > > > On Feb 14, 2009, at 5:31 AM, Muthu Ramadoss <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The point is making it clear to the users. I'm all for paid apps, but it > should be made really clear. > > take care, > Muthu Ramadoss. > > <http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz>http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914 > <http://androidrocks.in>http://androidrocks.in - Android Consulting. > > > > On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Incognito < <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Solution is easy. Never buy from that developer again. As a user I usually >> feel cheated when the owner of an app wants me to paid for it after the >> trial time expires. Damn him, how dare that greedy evil bastard force me to >> pay. Is not like he has any bills to pay after spending hundreds of hours >> slaving over that code. As a user, it is my way or none's way. >> >> >> On Feb 14, 2009, at 3:53 AM, tekrytor < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> As a consumer, I find timebombs extremely negative. I would much >> rather install a totally FREE lite version, than something that stops >> working that I have to uninstall and wonder if it all got out. It >> makes me think EVIL of the suppliers, and plot their extraordinary >> rendition, waterboarding, and power-tool pedicures, etc. >> >> This brings up the topic of starting with and maintaining the >> "correct" terminology for everyone's benefit, including buyers, >> sellers and developers. User's need to know up front exactly what >> they're getting and exactly how much the upgrade will cost before >> anything at all is installed or they will feel cheated or deceived and >> not return to the vendor or manufacturer. Make it OBVIOUS (and short) >> what the customer is getting and stop with the 40 page terms and >> conditions. It's not necessary and it is proof of too many attorneys >> and EVIL intent. >> >> Google and programmers should think about the way they do business in >> the long term. I know it takes extra work to make a TRIAL (timebomb) >> or DEMO (free lite) version. But I also know that the software I enjoy >> using most are ones that I feel good about, for whatever reason. Any >> doubt ruins the relationship and the future relationship. >> >> For example: >> I was once burned by AOL, who kept deducting payment months after the >> contract terminated. So, for years whenever I saw those stacks of >> their free CDs at computer shops, I would grab the stack and toss it >> in the first trash can I saw. I was not alone, told all my friends and >> family, and I saw others doing the same. It was like Fight Club. "You >> too Man?", "Yeah, I hate AOL". Anyone who asked me about an ISP, I >> told them to forget AOL. Look where AOL is today. I like to think it >> was my grassroots campaign. >> >> My recommendation: >> Programmers, for your own good, think of the "taking the lollipop out >> of the little kid's mouth" scenario. not a good situation.. Go free >> lite DEMO instead of trial (timebomb). Most of you won't know this, >> but before there was Wallmart, there were candy stores. Good ones >> always gave the kids a penny candy on their way out, so they come >> back. most of you will never be a Wallmart, so try thinking of >> yourselves as a small town candy store who needs the kids to come >> back. >> >> Cheers, >> Steve the Customer >> >> >> On Feb 12, 2:40 pm, "Justin (Google Employee)" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Al, your interpretation of the distribution agreement is incorrect. >> You may distribute trial version of your apps on the Market. >> >> "This is not intended to prevent distribution of free trial versions >> of the Product with an 'upsell' option to obtain the full version of >> the Product: Such free trials for Products are encouraged." >> >> What is required is that if you provide an "upsell" option to a paid >> version, this version must be available, and available solely through >> the Android Market. >> >> "However, if you want to collect fees after the free trial expires, >> you must collect all fees for the full version of the Product through >> the Payment Processor on the Market." >> >> To put it another way, you can **not** use the Android Market as a >> distribution channel for free, trial versions and then complete the >> upsell to a paid version through another channel. You can distribute a >> free, trial version of your application that has an expiration date, >> and then sell a version without an expiration, but it must be through >> the Android Market >> >> Cheers, >> Justin >> Android Team @ Google >> >> On Feb 11, 6:48 am, Cédric Berger <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 14:15, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> The originally posted question was; >> >> "I am earger to put my app onto the market, even for free (until paid >> apps are allowed). Is it allowed to put a time bomb in the app and make >> it useless after a trial period?" >> >> So, in the case that started the thread, it's against Market T&Cs to make >> the app available for free until paid apps are allowed and then charge for >> it. >> >> Maybe but I am not so sure. >> If I publish an application using my server (and needing it to run), >> which will be online for one year, no more : I doubt the market T&Cs >> puts me in the obligation to keep my server online forever. And so >> this is indeed an application limited for 1 year. >> >> What I wanted to say is that an application said to be limited till a >> given date is just an application which provide this claimed >> functionnality. No less no more. Even when the date limit is reached, >> it still offer the same claimed functionnality, and is still free... >> but that functionnality is that it is not useable now. >> >> In case of a trial version limited in time, the paying version is to >> be considered a different version. And it is anyway, since it is not >> limited :-p ... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
