Good luck. May it bring you the millions ;-)

take care,
Muthu Ramadoss.

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On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Incognito <[email protected]> wrote:

> This week I'll submit one.
>
>
> On Feb 15, 2009, at 12:58 AM, Muthu Ramadoss <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Any apps on the paid market, Incognito?
>
> take care,
> Muthu Ramadoss.
>
> <http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz>http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914
> <http://androidrocks.in>http://androidrocks.in - Android Consulting.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Incognito < <[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Looks can be deceiving
>>
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Muthu Ramadoss < <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Haha.. you were incognito and i was just wondering. You sound like a
>> friend i knew once :)
>>
>> take care,
>> Muthu Ramadoss.
>>
>> <http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz> <http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz>
>> http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz +91-9840348914
>>  <http://androidrocks.in> <http://androidrocks.in>http://androidrocks.in- 
>> Android Consulting.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:53 AM, Incognito < 
>> <[email protected]><[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Who me? USA. Why?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 14, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Muthu Ramadoss < 
>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> IC, you live in US or India?
>>>
>>> take care,
>>> Muthu Ramadoss.
>>>
>>> <http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz> 
>>> <http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz><http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz>
>>> http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz +91-9840348914
>>>  <http://androidrocks.in> <http://androidrocks.in><http://androidrocks.in>
>>> http://androidrocks.in - Android Consulting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Incognito < 
>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know, I'm all for it too. Just felt like ranting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 14, 2009, at 5:31 AM, Muthu Ramadoss 
>>>> <<[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]>
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The point is making it clear to the users. I'm all for paid apps, but it
>>>> should be made really clear.
>>>>
>>>> take care,
>>>> Muthu Ramadoss.
>>>>
>>>> <http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz> 
>>>> <http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz><http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz><http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz>
>>>> http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz +91-9840348914
>>>>  <http://androidrocks.in> 
>>>> <http://androidrocks.in><http://androidrocks.in><http://androidrocks.in>
>>>> http://androidrocks.in - Android Consulting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Incognito < 
>>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]>
>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Solution is easy. Never buy from that developer again. As a user I
>>>>> usually feel cheated when the owner of an app wants me to paid for it 
>>>>> after
>>>>> the trial time expires. Damn him, how dare that greedy evil bastard force 
>>>>> me
>>>>> to pay. Is not like he has any bills to pay after spending hundreds of 
>>>>> hours
>>>>> slaving over that code.. As a user, it is my way or none's way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 14, 2009, at 3:53 AM, tekrytor < 
>>>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]>
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As a consumer, I find timebombs extremely negative. I would much
>>>>> rather install a totally FREE lite version, than something that stops
>>>>> working that I have to uninstall and wonder if it all got out. It
>>>>> makes me think EVIL of the suppliers, and plot their extraordinary
>>>>> rendition, waterboarding, and power-tool pedicures, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> This brings up the topic of starting with and maintaining the
>>>>> "correct" terminology for everyone's benefit, including buyers,
>>>>> sellers and developers. User's need to know up front exactly what
>>>>> they're getting and exactly how much the upgrade will cost before
>>>>> anything at all is installed or they will feel cheated or deceived and
>>>>> not return to the vendor or manufacturer. Make it OBVIOUS (and short)
>>>>> what the customer is getting and stop with the 40 page terms and
>>>>> conditions. It's not necessary and it is proof of too many attorneys
>>>>> and EVIL intent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Google and programmers should think about the way they do business in
>>>>> the long term. I know it takes extra work to make a TRIAL (timebomb)
>>>>> or DEMO (free lite) version. But I also know that the software I enjoy
>>>>> using most are ones that I feel good about, for whatever reason. Any
>>>>> doubt ruins the relationship and the future relationship.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example:
>>>>> I was once burned by AOL, who kept deducting payment months after the
>>>>> contract terminated. So, for years whenever I saw those stacks of
>>>>> their free CDs at computer shops, I would grab the stack and toss it
>>>>> in the first trash can I saw. I was not alone, told all my friends and
>>>>> family, and I saw others doing the same. It was like Fight Club. "You
>>>>> too Man?", "Yeah, I hate AOL". Anyone who asked me about an ISP, I
>>>>> told them to forget AOL. Look where AOL is today. I like to think it
>>>>> was my grassroots campaign.
>>>>>
>>>>> My recommendation:
>>>>> Programmers, for your own good, think of the "taking the lollipop out
>>>>> of the little kid's mouth" scenario. not a good situation.. Go free
>>>>> lite DEMO instead of trial (timebomb). Most of you won't know this,
>>>>> but before there was Wallmart, there were candy stores. Good ones
>>>>> always gave the kids a penny candy on their way out, so they come
>>>>> back. most of you will never be a Wallmart, so try thinking of
>>>>> yourselves as a small town candy store who needs the kids to come
>>>>> back.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Steve the Customer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 12, 2:40 pm, "Justin (Google Employee)" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Al, your interpretation of the distribution agreement is incorrect.
>>>>> You may distribute trial version of your apps on the Market.
>>>>>
>>>>> "This is not intended to prevent distribution of free trial versions
>>>>> of the Product with an 'upsell' option to obtain the full version of
>>>>> the Product: Such free trials for Products are encouraged."
>>>>>
>>>>> What is required is that if you provide an "upsell" option to a paid
>>>>> version, this version must be available, and available solely through
>>>>> the Android Market.
>>>>>
>>>>> "However, if you want to collect fees after the free trial expires,
>>>>> you must collect all fees for the full version of the Product through
>>>>> the Payment Processor on the Market."
>>>>>
>>>>> To put it another way, you can **not** use the Android Market as a
>>>>> distribution channel for free, trial versions and then complete the
>>>>> upsell to a paid version through another channel. You can distribute a
>>>>> free, trial version of your application that has an expiration date,
>>>>> and then sell a version without an expiration, but it must be through
>>>>> the Android Market
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Justin
>>>>> Android Team @ Google
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 11, 6:48 am, Cédric Berger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 14:15, Al Sutton 
>>>>> <[email protected]<[email protected]>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The originally posted question was;
>>>>>
>>>>> "I am earger to put my app onto the market, even for free (until paid
>>>>> apps are allowed). Is it allowed to put a time bomb in the app and make
>>>>> it useless after a trial period?"
>>>>>
>>>>> So, in the case that started the thread, it's against Market T&Cs to
>>>>> make the app available for free until paid apps are allowed and then 
>>>>> charge
>>>>> for it..
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe but I am not so sure.
>>>>> If I publish an application using my server (and needing it to run),
>>>>> which will be online for one year, no more : I doubt the market T&Cs
>>>>> puts me in the obligation to keep my server online forever. And so
>>>>> this is indeed an application limited for 1 year.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I wanted to say is that an application said to be limited till a
>>>>> given date is just an application which provide this claimed
>>>>> functionnality. No less no more. Even when the date limit is reached,
>>>>> it still offer the same claimed functionnality, and is still free...
>>>>> but that functionnality is that it is not useable now.
>>>>>
>>>>> In case of a trial version limited in time, the paying version is to
>>>>> be considered a different version. And it is anyway, since it is not
>>>>> limited :-p ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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