On Feb 27, 2:36 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> they made in regard to those points were the wrong ones and will learn
> from that in future.
It's only when you stop learning, that you should start worrying....
>
> Al.
>
>
>
> Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote:
> > -shipping on time was deemed more important than implementing apps on
> > external storage. Sometimes you do get stuck between a rock and a hard
> > place.
>
> > -we've been working on allowing to get 1.1 on ADP1 since before ADP1
> > was even available.
>
> > -see my point above for the issue of paid apps on ADP1 (the 1.0 market
> > client doesn't support paid apps).
>
> > JBQ
>
> > 2009/2/26 Al Sutton <[email protected]>:
>
> >> I'm not really feeling pitty for then as a lot of the problems have been
> >> brought about by a bad development and release process.
>
> >> - Someone, somewhere signed off on a design which had limited internal
> >> memory and no ability to install apps outside of the internal memory.
> >> Did this person or group not think that users would ever want to install
> >> 10+ apps?
> >> - Did no-one think about supporting the ADP1 when a 1.1 firmware
> >> codebase was handed over to T-Mobile?, or did someone just not think
> >> about rolling new firmware for ADP1s when Google started selling them?
> >> - Someone signed off on taking live the paid-apps implementation, did
> >> they not think about the problems it would create for the existing
> >> owners of ADP1s?
>
> >> To me it just seems that the mentality is that of a development shop run
> >> wild.
>
> >> One of the most of the successful projects I've worked on had a QA
> >> manager who would organise peer reviews, look for inconsistencies in
> >> approaches to problems and put developers together to see which approach
> >> offered the best benefits, but they would never claim they knew which
> >> approach was "best" because they didn't write code for the product
> >> (about the only things he would challenge developers on was spelling
> >> mistakes and basic coding errors, apart from that he'd just arrange for
> >> two or more developers to highlight problems and work out solutions).
> >> This would have thrashed algorithmic problems such as copy-protection
> >> being easily circumventable and having the debug flag left on which
> >> allowed the "type reboot to reboot" problem.
>
> >> After the QA manager rubber stamped a release it would then go to a
> >> release manager whose sole job was to look at the big picture. He'd say
> >> to developers things like "How does this affect the version we have
> >> running at customer X's site?", or "Is this release really of value to
> >> our customers or are we making it because a developer has come up with
> >> something cool that they want to show off?", and maintained a list of
> >> issues and considerations for the various deployments. This is where
> >> things like not allowing developers to see comments on their own apps,
> >> not allowing developers to list prices in other currencies, and not
> >> being able to create a firmware release for the ADP1 would have arisen.
>
> >> To me it seems that these two jobs are either missing from the Android
> >> process or not being done very well.
>
> >> Al.
>
> >> Muthu Ramadoss wrote:
>
> >>> I can only feel pity for the poor Googs. Man, my head is spinning with
> >>> the number of must fix issues going rounds already.
>
> >>> Increasing internal memory
> >>> SDcard applications support
> >>> ADP1 updates
> >>> ADP1 paid app support
> >>> Providing Google binaries
>
> >>> and on and on and on
> >>> ...
>
> >>> take care,
> >>> Muthu Ramadoss.
>
> >>>http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914
> >>>http://androidrocks.in- Android Consulting.
>
> >>> 2009/2/27 vendor.net <http://vendor.net> <vendor.net
> >>> <http://vendor.net>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>>
>
> >>> Don`t be so sure. There is no official statement about that. I`ve
> >>> asked google (JBQ as a representative) if there will be paid apps and
> >>> copy protected apps in ADP 1, but he didn`t answer me with positive
> >>> maybe because they don`t know or don`t want to tell us their plans...
> >>> The whole concept of Android and the first android phone and ADP1 was
> >>> great till I found that we were kicked out of the paid apps. This
> >>> issue should be (I think - must be) resolved and ADP 1 should support
> >>> installing paid apps.
>
> >>> On 25 Фев, 04:58, Muthu Ramadoss <[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>> > Yes, paid markets will be visible only after ADP updates that
> >>> google will
> >>> > hopefully provide soon.
>
> >>> > take care,
> >>> > Muthu Ramadoss.
>
> >>> http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914http://androidrocks.in-
> >>> Android Consulting.
>
> >>> > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Troglodad <[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> >>> > > Sorry for the noob question, but do I understand that we can't
> >>> access
> >>> > > paid apps on the Dev1 until we get it updated? And that
> >>> whether we get
> >>> > > an update is up in the air?
>
> >>> > > (I got my Dev1 in hopes of havign the time to learn the code
> >>> and start
> >>> > > making apps, but work and life are conspiring against me and
> >>> devouring
> >>> > > all my free time)
>
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