-shipping on time was deemed more important than implementing apps on external storage. Sometimes you do get stuck between a rock and a hard place.
-we've been working on allowing to get 1.1 on ADP1 since before ADP1 was even available. -see my point above for the issue of paid apps on ADP1 (the 1.0 market client doesn't support paid apps). JBQ 2009/2/26 Al Sutton <[email protected]>: > > I'm not really feeling pitty for then as a lot of the problems have been > brought about by a bad development and release process. > > - Someone, somewhere signed off on a design which had limited internal > memory and no ability to install apps outside of the internal memory. > Did this person or group not think that users would ever want to install > 10+ apps? > - Did no-one think about supporting the ADP1 when a 1.1 firmware > codebase was handed over to T-Mobile?, or did someone just not think > about rolling new firmware for ADP1s when Google started selling them? > - Someone signed off on taking live the paid-apps implementation, did > they not think about the problems it would create for the existing > owners of ADP1s? > > To me it just seems that the mentality is that of a development shop run > wild. > > One of the most of the successful projects I've worked on had a QA > manager who would organise peer reviews, look for inconsistencies in > approaches to problems and put developers together to see which approach > offered the best benefits, but they would never claim they knew which > approach was "best" because they didn't write code for the product > (about the only things he would challenge developers on was spelling > mistakes and basic coding errors, apart from that he'd just arrange for > two or more developers to highlight problems and work out solutions). > This would have thrashed algorithmic problems such as copy-protection > being easily circumventable and having the debug flag left on which > allowed the "type reboot to reboot" problem. > > After the QA manager rubber stamped a release it would then go to a > release manager whose sole job was to look at the big picture. He'd say > to developers things like "How does this affect the version we have > running at customer X's site?", or "Is this release really of value to > our customers or are we making it because a developer has come up with > something cool that they want to show off?", and maintained a list of > issues and considerations for the various deployments. This is where > things like not allowing developers to see comments on their own apps, > not allowing developers to list prices in other currencies, and not > being able to create a firmware release for the ADP1 would have arisen. > > To me it seems that these two jobs are either missing from the Android > process or not being done very well. > > Al. > > Muthu Ramadoss wrote: >> I can only feel pity for the poor Googs. Man, my head is spinning with >> the number of must fix issues going rounds already. >> >> Increasing internal memory >> SDcard applications support >> ADP1 updates >> ADP1 paid app support >> Providing Google binaries >> >> and on and on and on >> ... >> >> take care, >> Muthu Ramadoss. >> >> http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz +91-9840348914 >> http://androidrocks.in - Android Consulting. >> >> >> >> 2009/2/27 vendor.net <http://vendor.net> <vendor.net >> <http://vendor.net>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>> >> >> >> Don`t be so sure. There is no official statement about that. I`ve >> asked google (JBQ as a representative) if there will be paid apps and >> copy protected apps in ADP 1, but he didn`t answer me with positive >> maybe because they don`t know or don`t want to tell us their plans... >> The whole concept of Android and the first android phone and ADP1 was >> great till I found that we were kicked out of the paid apps. This >> issue should be (I think - must be) resolved and ADP 1 should support >> installing paid apps. >> >> On 25 Фев, 04:58, Muthu Ramadoss <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > Yes, paid markets will be visible only after ADP updates that >> google will >> > hopefully provide soon. >> > >> > take care, >> > Muthu Ramadoss. >> > >> > >> http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914http://androidrocks.in- >> Android Consulting. >> > >> > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Troglodad <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > > Sorry for the noob question, but do I understand that we can't >> access >> > > paid apps on the Dev1 until we get it updated? And that >> whether we get >> > > an update is up in the air? >> > >> > > (I got my Dev1 in hopes of havign the time to learn the code >> and start >> > > making apps, but work and life are conspiring against me and >> devouring >> > > all my free time) >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > > * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * > > ====== > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > subsidiaries. > > > > > -- Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru Android Engineer, Google. Please don't contact me directly. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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