Saying they were the wrong ones is more of an opinion than fact. I'm sure many will say that is better to have the ADP1 phone early with all it's problems than not at all. Frankly I think this is just a hurdle that once is fixed we won't even remember.
On Feb 27, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: I hope that given the views expressed by many people on these lists that the upper levels of management on the project release that the choices they made in regard to those points were the wrong ones and will learn from that in future. Al. Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: -shipping on time was deemed more important than implementing apps on external storage. Sometimes you do get stuck between a rock and a hard place. -we've been working on allowing to get 1.1 on ADP1 since before ADP1 was even available. -see my point above for the issue of paid apps on ADP1 (the 1.0 market client doesn't support paid apps). JBQ 2009/2/26 Al Sutton <[email protected]>: I'm not really feeling pitty for then as a lot of the problems have been brought about by a bad development and release process. - Someone, somewhere signed off on a design which had limited internal memory and no ability to install apps outside of the internal memory. Did this person or group not think that users would ever want to install 10+ apps? - Did no-one think about supporting the ADP1 when a 1.1 firmware codebase was handed over to T-Mobile?, or did someone just not think about rolling new firmware for ADP1s when Google started selling them? - Someone signed off on taking live the paid-apps implementation, did they not think about the problems it would create for the existing owners of ADP1s? To me it just seems that the mentality is that of a development shop run wild. One of the most of the successful projects I've worked on had a QA manager who would organise peer reviews, look for inconsistencies in approaches to problems and put developers together to see which approach offered the best benefits, but they would never claim they knew which approach was "best" because they didn't write code for the product (about the only things he would challenge developers on was spelling mistakes and basic coding errors, apart from that he'd just arrange for two or more developers to highlight problems and work out solutions). This would have thrashed algorithmic problems such as copy-protection being easily circumventable and having the debug flag left on which allowed the "type reboot to reboot" problem. After the QA manager rubber stamped a release it would then go to a release manager whose sole job was to look at the big picture. He'd say to developers things like "How does this affect the version we have running at customer X's site?", or "Is this release really of value to our customers or are we making it because a developer has come up with something cool that they want to show off?", and maintained a list of issues and considerations for the various deployments. This is where things like not allowing developers to see comments on their own apps, not allowing developers to list prices in other currencies, and not being able to create a firmware release for the ADP1 would have arisen. To me it seems that these two jobs are either missing from the Android process or not being done very well. Al. Muthu Ramadoss wrote: I can only feel pity for the poor Googs. Man, my head is spinning with the number of must fix issues going rounds already. Increasing internal memory SDcard applications support ADP1 updates ADP1 paid app support Providing Google binaries and on and on and on ... take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz +91-9840348914 http://androidrocks.in - Android Consulting. 2009/2/27 vendor.net <http://vendor.net> <vendor.net <http://vendor.net>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>> Don`t be so sure. There is no official statement about that.. I`ve asked google (JBQ as a representative) if there will be paid apps and copy protected apps in ADP 1, but he didn`t answer me with positive maybe because they don`t know or don`t want to tell us their plans... The whole concept of Android and the first android phone and ADP1 was great till I found that we were kicked out of the paid apps. This issue should be (I think - must be) resolved and ADP 1 should support installing paid apps. On 25 Фев, 04:58, Muthu Ramadoss <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yes, paid markets will be visible only after ADP updates that google will hopefully provide soon. take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914http://androidrocks.in- Android Consulting. On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Troglodad <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Sorry for the noob question, but do I understand that we can't access paid apps on the Dev1 until we get it updated? And that whether we get an update is up in the air? (I got my Dev1 in hopes of havign the time to learn the code and start making apps, but work and life are conspiring against me and devouring all my free time) -- * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * ====== Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. 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