Kurt wrote: > * Give everyone the ability to execute native code en masse.
You are welcome to contribute to efforts in this area: http://groups.google.com/group/android-ndk > Everyone-- *everyone*--- *FREAKING EVERYONE* knows > that truly talented developers prefer c[++] wayyy over java Citation, please. > Nobody wants to port c to java, because it's a *downgrade*. Citation, please. > * Find a way to market the differences; find (or create) some things > that everyone will go, "whoh" to. An example: currently, the fact > that you restrict the Maps licensing to explicitly not be used for > realtime navigation is one of the biggest mistakes you could possibly > be making on a mobile platform like android when you have such a > strong advantage on the playing field. If you don't realize that > and nothing's even planned to be done about it, then, well, I'm > speechless. Absolutely freaking speechless. On one of these lists last year, Google indicated that they do not have all rights to all of the navigational data -- the restrictions on developers are in part a pass-through of the restrictions on their own license to the data. > Am I actually posting to a mailing list, by the way? > How 90s. Many open source projects use mailing lists. The Linux kernel comes to mind. > It boggles the mind how google, a giant on the internet, can > repeatedly fail to understand the importance of community planning in > fostering growth in people-oriented ventures. Please bear in mind that the core Android team is not infinitely large. There was a substantial amount of gnashing of teeth on this very list regarding all the things missing from Android 1.0. Well, the core Android team delivered on some of those requests with Android 1.5. Since the team has finite resources (extraordinarily finite for some groups), it is not shocking that community development has not been high on their list. Given a choice between having the core Android team work on Android -- something they are uniquely qualified to do -- or having them work on community development, I'd rather have them do the engineering. On the community side, even Java-mongering schmoes like me can lend a hand. There are some community things that *only* the core Android team can do (e.g., publicize development priorities, help shepherd patches through the process). Those are the things I try to push them for. > Where's the Wiki like every open source project has? 1. Not every open source project has a wiki. 2. The more time I spend responding to rants, the less time I have to get a wiki going. And, no, I'm not a Googler in disguise. Googlers could afford better disguises, ones with hair and everything. > Where are the forums? http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss and others. It may be you do not like the Google Groups Web interface. I only occasionally use it myself, preferring email. And there are certainly things Google Groups could use (e.g., integration with the GMail spam filter, as somebody recently suggested). However, is is undeniably popular, and so I find it difficult to fault them for eating their own dog food. > The feature requests? Unfortunately, http://b.android.com. > Recently, I had posted an > idea about encouraging a influx of open source developers onto the > platform to jumpstart popularity in the core developer demographic by > granting free licenses to verified open source developers (e.g., > through sourceforge projects). No response from google, but someone > was more than happy to tell me why that's a waste of Google's time and > money(?) That's fine if my idea's crap, but on an allegedly open > source platform, I'm not entirely convinced that it is. Got a link? I'm scratching my head as to what you want to give free licenses for (Android is already open source), but I'm guessing that would be more obvious if I could read the original idea. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://twitter.com/commonsguy _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 2.0 Available! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
