The fact of the matter is, Google did what they needed to and what was
right.  Whether or not you like the idea of what they've done is a
completely different story.  The OS is open source, yes, but the
applications are not, and they have a right to distribute those as they
like.  Therefore, they've left the platform open, without giving access to
all of the apps.  It's a reasonable approach and still leaves the platform
open.  Even if it's not as open as everyone would like.
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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Felipemnoa <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Go ahead and join apple. Nothing wrong with being able to program in more
> than one phone. If you look at things objectively google has done nothing
> wrong.
>
> On Sep 25, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Calvin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Google,
>
>
> If you are going to play this card, then you need to supply a way for
> the user to sync our information. THAT PART needs to be open source or
> licensable. I understand that you may need to have protections on
> those apps, but WE are taking the risk that Cyanogen is not malicious.
>
> I paid for an OPEN SOURCE Android phone with Google. That means I paid
> for the rights to use these closed source apps and services ALONG with
> the open source OS. Explain to me how the ROM is "supposedly" open
> source. Does that mean that I need to compile all of my own ROMs in
> order to have a modified ROM? Your "closed source" google apps are WAY
> too ingrained and integrated into the OS to allow a separation. This
> makes all that "open source" talk no more than Symbian claiming to be
> open source.
>
> Because honestly, without Cyanogen's mods, the G1 is LAME. I am
> constantly defending its abilities (or lack thereof) with the fact
> that my phone is part of an open source alliance. Now, the Apple
> fanboys are going to win. And unfortunately, I may have to join them.
> Either hire Cyanogen or license him to distribute google apps. Its not
> like he's changing them. He's optimizing the Linux Kernel that you
> chose to use in the name of "open-source".
>
> You need to stop these silly Apple-like games before Android becomes
> an afterthought.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> The Truly Disappointed.
>
> On Sep 25, 4:16 pm, Eric F <[email protected]> wrote:
> Now that the Lawyers are involved, I doubt Cyanogen will be able to
> release any additional ROMs at all. Even without those apps, I'm sure
> the ROMs include little bits of proprietary files required to get the
> OS to boot on existing hardware. I don't think there is a single piece
> of released hardware that the AOSP runs on (not even the ADP1). So I
> don't think the Lawyers will let up because the next custom ROM only
> uses a couple of proprietary HTC files. I'm guessing it's done for
> good.
>
> On Sep 25, 11:37 am, "L!TH!UM" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I was initially disappointed to hear this news, but after thinking
> about it a bit, it was a necessary one.  The big issue is that
> Cyanogen is including the google APKs like Google Mail, Google Maps,
> etc.  These are closed applications and not part of the Android OS,
> and if Google lets this slide, they may not be able to defend against
> other ROMs including these APKs without permission.  Also, consider
> what would happen if any of those APKs were modified to do something
> devious, like send contact info to some server out there on the
> interwebs.  Who do you think users would initially blame?  I'm
> guessing they'd blame Google regardless of the fact that they modded
> their phone.
>
> This C&D does not prevent Cyanogen from making custom ROMs, he/she/
> they just cannot include those google applications anymore.  I can
> understand this move and hope the modding community takes note and
> keeps up the modding, minus these apps (unfortunately).
>
> ~L!TH
>
> On Sep 25, 7:57 am, PhoenixAG <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Google,
>
> We love you as a company and love the Android platform. It is only
> made better when it is enhanced by people like Cyanogen who use the
> open nature of the platform to further it and attracts many more
> people to it, as a result.
>
> I am one of the people who was attracted towards Android not for the
> official rom, but because of the open nature of Android and that I
> could use a custom rom on it.
>
> Someone who has put in so much hard work on the platform should not be
> told to cease and desist, but commended and encouraged to continue to
> work better.
>
> Don't become Apple!
>
> The 30,000 users of CyanogenMod and many more Android users will thank
> you for it.
>
> Remember, "Don't be Evil!"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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