Hello again everybody.

I've made a new revision of the document, which I think you'll agree
has a nicer tone.
Please tell me what you think and I'll publish this so everybody can
sign it.

=> http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9hmc43_0c9zh58gd

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Rob


On Feb 28, 1:34 am, Mark Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bob Kerns wrote:
> > Personally, I start with the assumption that these are professional
> > developers. Sometimes they have hard choices to make. They need to
> > know what the customer pain points are.
>
> As Mr. Coryat indicated, they are aware of those pain points. I can
> attest to this as well.
>
> > Now, I'm not saying wording can't be improved. If you have specific
> > concrete suggestions, I think it would be a fine idea to offer them.
>
> The executives in charge of Android and the Android Market allocate
> engineering time from a much smaller team than most outsiders might
> think. Different people on the outside have different reasons for
> wanting a different allocation of that engineering time -- you want more
> spent on the Market, I want more spent on open source builds, etc.
>
> At least for the two I cited specifically above, the executives in
> charge of Android are well aware of the issues -- to use your term, they
> would have to be idiots not to, considering all the noise that has been
> made in the past year. All the complaints and subsequent media coverage
> have not had an externally-obvious impact on decision-making.
>
> I am completely unconvinced that even a well-written, well-worded
> petition alone would make an impact at the executive level, any more
> than anything else tried so far has. The petition being discussed is
> neither well-written nor well-worded, IMHO.
>
> For all the chest-beating going on about not seeing the strategy being
> employed by Android executives ("They haven't communicated it, so I
> won't pretend to understand it."), there is equally little sign of a
> strategy by those who care about this issue. Perhaps I'm not looking in
> the right places. As a result, to me, this petition comes across as your
> garden-variety Internet rant. If there is a bigger plan, of which this
> petition is but one part, please point me to it. Until I see such a
> plan, it is difficult to take this petition seriously.
>
> What I would hope the "bigger plan" would entail is changing the Android
> Market by making it obsolete -- building a vastly better market,
> evangelizing the heck out of it, etc. But, if that were the plan, this
> petition wouldn't seem to be necessary, or even prudent. Of course,
> there are other plans, such as organizing developers into a cooperative
> and using group action for bargaining power, for which something like a
> petition might make sense.
>
> To me, a petition alone will have as much success as do the Washington
> Generals against the Harlem Globetrotters. Or, to quote a delightful movie:
>
>         Miracle Max: Have fun stormin' da castle!
>         Valerie: Think it'll work?
>         Miracle Max: It would take a miracle.
>
> As that movie illustrated, miracles do happen, at least in children's
> stories distilled from economics treatises. They also happen
> occasionally on hockey rinks.
>
> If, in this case, it doesn't happen, and you want to develop a long-term
> strategy and plan for dealing with this issue, let me know.
>
> --
> Mark Murphy (a Commons 
> Guy)http://commonsware.com|http://twitter.com/commonsguy
>
> _The Busy Coder's Guide to *Advanced* Android Development_
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