Sorry I can't sign that.  I consider the Android Market not be on par
with the iPhone App Store because it is far superior.

I doubt its an accident that you are required to have a phone to fully
participate in the Android Market.  I don't want more developers
shipping applications without testing them on phones.  Does anyone?

I do not want to have to maintain multiple versions of my
applications, I am glad that it's Google and Motorola and HTC's job to
make sure the one .APK I write will work on future hardware and
firmware versions.

On the other hand I do support Google making most of the other
modifications you are asking for.  I don't want to rush the process
but I do want Google to invest more into Android.

My 2 cents,
-MK


On Mar 3, 1:53 pm, Rob Irondad <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello again everybody.
>
> I've made a new revision of the document, which I think you'll agree
> has a nicer tone.
> Please tell me what you think and I'll publish this so everybody can
> sign it.
>
> =>http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9hmc43_0c9zh58gd
>
> --
> Rob
>
> On Feb 28, 1:34 am, Mark Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Bob Kerns wrote:
> > > Personally, I start with the assumption that these are professional
> > > developers. Sometimes they have hard choices to make. They need to
> > > know what the customer pain points are.
>
> > As Mr. Coryat indicated, they are aware of those pain points. I can
> > attest to this as well.
>
> > > Now, I'm not saying wording can't be improved. If you have specific
> > > concrete suggestions, I think it would be a fine idea to offer them.
>
> > The executives in charge of Android and the Android Market allocate
> > engineering time from a much smaller team than most outsiders might
> > think. Different people on the outside have different reasons for
> > wanting a different allocation of that engineering time -- you want more
> > spent on the Market, I want more spent on open source builds, etc.
>
> > At least for the two I cited specifically above, the executives in
> > charge of Android are well aware of the issues -- to use your term, they
> > would have to be idiots not to, considering all the noise that has been
> > made in the past year. All the complaints and subsequent media coverage
> > have not had an externally-obvious impact on decision-making.
>
> > I am completely unconvinced that even a well-written, well-worded
> > petition alone would make an impact at the executive level, any more
> > than anything else tried so far has. The petition being discussed is
> > neither well-written nor well-worded, IMHO.
>
> > For all the chest-beating going on about not seeing the strategy being
> > employed by Android executives ("They haven't communicated it, so I
> > won't pretend to understand it."), there is equally little sign of a
> > strategy by those who care about this issue. Perhaps I'm not looking in
> > the right places. As a result, to me, this petition comes across as your
> > garden-variety Internet rant. If there is a bigger plan, of which this
> > petition is but one part, please point me to it. Until I see such a
> > plan, it is difficult to take this petition seriously.
>
> > What I would hope the "bigger plan" would entail is changing the Android
> > Market by making it obsolete -- building a vastly better market,
> > evangelizing the heck out of it, etc. But, if that were the plan, this
> > petition wouldn't seem to be necessary, or even prudent. Of course,
> > there are other plans, such as organizing developers into a cooperative
> > and using group action for bargaining power, for which something like a
> > petition might make sense.
>
> > To me, a petition alone will have as much success as do the Washington
> > Generals against the Harlem Globetrotters. Or, to quote a delightful movie:
>
> >         Miracle Max: Have fun stormin' da castle!
> >         Valerie: Think it'll work?
> >         Miracle Max: It would take a miracle.
>
> > As that movie illustrated, miracles do happen, at least in children's
> > stories distilled from economics treatises. They also happen
> > occasionally on hockey rinks.
>
> > If, in this case, it doesn't happen, and you want to develop a long-term
> > strategy and plan for dealing with this issue, let me know.
>
> > --
> > Mark Murphy (a Commons 
> > Guy)http://commonsware.com|http://twitter.com/commonsguy
>
> > _The Busy Coder's Guide to *Advanced* Android Development_
> > Version 1.3 Available!

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