> > I will never buy a htc phone again. > Umm - hold on! There still more open than *any* other phone company out there!
Thanks, Kiall On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:53 PM, debuti <[email protected]> wrote: > :)Well... I will never buy a htc phone again. > > Thanks for your explanations! > > On 12 abr, 19:43, Kiall Mac Innes <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh and - the kernel source is available @http://developer.htc.com/ > > > > But - It feels like they almost went out of their way (HTC that is) to > make > > it harder to use... > > > > Its a branch of 2.6.27 if i remember correctly, with lots of 2.6.29 > patches > > pulled into it, merged with a load of HTC's own changes - all thats fine > ... > > BUT - its had *all the revision history stripped*.. So trying to port the > > hero specifics from it into the AOSP kernel is nearly impossible... and > .29 > > is needed for android 2.0+ > > > > Thanks, > > Kiall > > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Kiall Mac Innes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > You can't build a "from scratch" ROM for the Android Dev Phone 1, > Android > > > Dev Phone 2 or the Nexus 1 either. Lots of the chips in your phone are > made > > > by companies who refuse to open source a thing - with no (viable) > > > alternatives available... > > > > > Thanks, > > > Kiall > > > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:34 PM, debuti <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> why they dont release a hero kernel + anything needed to build the > > >> system from scratch? > > > > >> f***! > > > > >> On 12 abr, 17:40, Kiall Mac Innes <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > You might be interested inhttp:// > > >> github.com/kiall/android_vendor_communityandjnwhiteh and > > >> > lokX's branches - between the 3 of us, we have 2.1 building > > >> > for a hero and my branch also has a mostly working Dream 2.1... > > > > >> > But you need lots of proprietary binaries - list of them/script to > > >> extract > > >> > them @ > > >>http://github.com/kiall/android_vendor_community/blob/eclair/hero/unz. > .. > > > > >> > Thanks, > > >> > Kiall > > > > >> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:32 PM, David Turner <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:43 AM, debuti <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > >> > >> And that blobs, can't be extracted from existing ROMs? > > > > >> > >> Probably, but frankly I have no idea what the Hero uses and how > to > > >> > > integrate the corresponding binaries into an AOSP tree. > > >> > > You were asking why it's so difficult, I just provide an answer > :-) > > > > >> > >> On 7 abr, 18:28, David Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > >> > Because you don't have all the drivers. Some hardware is > supported > > >> > >> through > > >> > >> > proprietary binary blobs that run in user space. For example > the > > >> OpenGL > > >> > >> ES > > >> > >> > hardware support library. > > > > >> > >> > That's why, even you need to extract them from a device or from > the > > >> > >> recovery > > >> > >> > images at developer.htc.com when you want to make an AOSP > build > > >> that > > >> > >> runs on > > >> > >> > an ADP1. > > > > >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:52 AM, debuti <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> > >> > > There are two types of ROMs to the Hero, the ones with sense > > >> (coming > > >> > >> > > from HTC or customized by users, but with sense anyway) and > > >> laggy, and > > >> > >> > > the ones compiled from sources with missed capabilities > > >> (Bluetooth, > > >> > >> > > glitches, etc). > > > > >> > >> > > My question is, since we've got the sources for Hero kernel > > >> (http:// > > >> > >> > > developer.htc.com/), and the AOSP project, why noone did > compile > > >> a > > >> > >> > > fully-working-without-sense-then-faster-1.5-AOSP Rom for Htc > > >> Hero? > > > > >> > >> > > OR > > > > >> > >> > > why it is so difficult to compile a working 2.1 Rom if we > have > > >> the > > >> > >> > > kernel, hence the drivers? > > > > >> > >> > > Thanks! > > > > >> > >> > > -- > > >> > >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > >> Google > > >> > >> Groups > > >> > >> > > "Android Discuss" group. > > >> > >> > > To post to this group, send email to > > >> [email protected] > > >> > >> . > > >> > >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> > >> > > [email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > > > > >> <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > > > > > > >> > >> <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > > > > >> <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > > > > > > >> > >> > > . > > >> > >> > > For more options, visit this group at > > >> > >> > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > > > > >> > >> -- > > >> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > > >> Groups > > >> > >> "Android Discuss" group. > > >> > >> To post to this group, send email to > > >> [email protected]. > > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> > >> [email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > > > > >> <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > > > > > > >> > >> . > > >> > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >> > >>http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > > > > >> > > -- > > >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> Groups > > >> > > "Android Discuss" group. > > >> > > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected] > > >> . > > >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> > > [email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > > > > >> <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > > > > > > >> > > . > > >> > > For more options, visit this group at > > >> > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > >> "Android Discuss" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> [email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > <android-discuss%[email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > > > > >> . > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Android Discuss" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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