You have failed to understand the distinction between ANDROID and
GOOGLE APPS.

These are quite different.
ANDROID, the PLATFORM, does not have google apps. Yes, Market/Maps/
Signin/etc. are private closed source stuff. That doesn't mean that
ANDROID has private/hidden/inaccessible APIs. It means that some stuff
added in ON TOP of android does.

I realize that it is difficult for one to rationalize the fact that
google is behind both sides, that doesn't mean that Android itself is
so disabled.

In fact, ANDROID is OPEN SOURCE! You can't have a private/hidden API
in something that is open source!
That, of course, doesn't mean that everything there you can "just
use"... for some of the security sensitive things, you need to sign
your APK with the sake key as the rest of the platform. This is just
to ensure that malicious applications don't go stomping around with
what amounts to root access.

If you want access to EVERYTHING, then you just need to get your hands
on the applicable signing key, or resign the whole platform with YOUR
key.

On Apr 28, 12:22 pm, GodsMoon <[email protected]> wrote:
> The google account thing I was talking about is detailed 
> here:http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1073
>
> 3rd party apps do not have permission to call that Intent but apps
> like Google Maps are.
> Sounds like a private API to me...
>
> David Shellabargerhttp://www.goldfishview.com
>
> On Apr 28, 7:05 am, Mark Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > GodsMoon wrote:
> > > I'm not saying that Google is malicious, but if this NY Times article
> > > is true that it is pure spin.
>
> > Most articles are. Heck, nowadays, most "news" is. In a world of blogs
> > and video and stuff, I take things that come from intermediaries with a
> > large grain of salt, maybe 12 inches (30.48cm) on a side...
>
> > And note, I used physical dimensions for my salt! Screen density
> > independence, FTW!
>
> > :-)
>
> > > Andy Rubin is VP of Engineering at Google and he started Android.
>
> > Like I said, he's an executive.
>
> > > I think this is much less a threat then allowing
> > > apps to send SMS messages.
>
> > Which is why there's a rate limiter on that API. One that others have
> > complained about, I might add.
>
> > > If timing is really the only issue here, then just let developers know
> > > when the feature is coming in the interest of being "open". We can be
> > > patient; just let us know when.
>
> > No quibbles here on that point. OTOH, I wouldn't hold my breath if I
> > were you. :-(
>
> > > The fact that you can't turn the screen off based on the proximity
> > > sensor is ridiculous. This use-case is obvious and you should be able
> > > to do that the completely open system that Andy is describing.
>
> > Limiting the screen-off stuff to this -- say, a
> > setProximityScreenOffEnabled() method somewhere, perhaps PowerManager --
> > would help to clear up some of the security issues a well. It might make
> > a useful first step towards making it more generally available.
>
> > > PS The Gmail account authentication API is private as well right? Did
> > > I just make that up?
>
> > Beats me -- I'm not sure what you're referring to. I haven't fussed with
> > anything regarding Gmail on the device, largely because I don't use Gmail.
>
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>
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