Okey dokey it'll be put on the dev schedule and announce it on http://groups.google.com/group/andappstore-discussion when it's done :).
Al. -- * Looking for Android Apps? - Try http://andappstore.com/ * ====== Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company number 6741909. The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's subsidiaries. On 8 Sep 2010, at 15:30, Mark Carter wrote: > Yeah, I mentioned it to you about a month ago. Shame no one else has > expressed an interest. For me, writing special code for a 3rd party > store means I'm less likely to use that store. I'm sure others feel > the same even if they have not expressed an interest. > > So count me in as a +1 for an LVL compatible library. > > On 8 September 2010 16:13, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: >> Mark, >> We already >> have http://andappstore.com/AndroidApplications/purchase_checking.jsp which >> can be used to combat piracy. >> I asked a few weeks ago if there was any interest in an LVL compatible >> library and didn't get a single yes, hence why i hasn't been implemented. >> LVL uses the same basic design & cryptography as the licensing system we >> developed early last year and offered to Google so its' not a lot of work >> for us. >> Al. >> -- >> >> * Looking for Android Apps? - Try http://andappstore.com/ * >> >> ====== >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company >> number 6741909. >> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or >> it's subsidiaries. >> On 8 Sep 2010, at 14:04, Mark Carter wrote: >> >> I have uploaded my free apps to AndAppStore in the past and am happy >> to continue doing so. >> >> As a test, I also tried uploading one of my small paid apps, but sales >> are about 1% of the same app on Android Market. >> >> However, my main concerns about using AndAppStore for paid apps >> revolve around piracy. One thing that would lower the barrier, would >> be if AndAppStore provided an LVL compatible licensing solution. I >> should be able to just swap an AndAppStore LVL project in for the >> official Google LVL Library Project (and maybe change some public >> key), rebuild the app, and be done. Is this possible? >> >> My concern then, would only be about the up-time/stability of an >> AndAppStore licensing server. >> >> On Sep 8, 10:13 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Tom, >> >> In some ways I find it amusing the way this discussion has gone. >> >> You started off with an email saying you have problems finding a revenue >> stream for your app, but your now giving the impression you won't support >> alternatives which could give you this revenue stream. If developers, such >> as yourself, don't support alternative app stores your basically saying >> Googles Market is good enough for all your needs, and all the time you're >> doing that Google don't really have a driver to change Market all that >> quickly. >> >> Yes, it's true that alternative markets can't give you the number of >> potential users you could get through market, but to refuse to even try out >> options to see what revenue they could generate seems strange to me, after >> all listing on Market is no guarantee your going to actually sell anything >> because on Market your app is one amongst tens of thousands all competing >> for users attention. >> >> You can also think of it this way; Google is a business, and so anything >> they do will need to have a justification. At the moment anyone trying to >> justify expanding paid apps will probably be met with the counter argument; >> "Well developers have alternative markets they could use and they choose not >> to, so it can't be that important", which is quite a strong argument. If >> developers can't be bothered to spend a few minutes listing and maintaining >> an app at even one or two market alternatives then why should google believe >> the developer is going to put the effort in to maintain a quality product on >> Market? >> >> At the end of the day it's your personal choice, and I respect that, but if >> you don't want to spend the time showing Google there is a demand for a >> feature by using the alternatives available to you, then I can't see them >> giving a lot of weight to the request. >> >> Al. >> >> P.S. The closest we can come to what you want is our service to pull apps >> from feeds (http://andappstore.com/AndroidApplications/feeds.jsp) >> >> -- >> >> * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* >> >> ====== >> >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company >> number 6741909. >> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >> subsidiaries. >> >> On 8 Sep 2010, at 08:33, Tomáš Hubálek wrote: >> >> >> >> Al, >> >> if you make it simple (one time approval, no uploads, online rejection of >> approval if necessary, automated almost real time mirroring from Android >> Market), I'll give you approval for all my free apps. >> >> As you talked about egg and chicken issue, that's the real cause. You need a >> lot of good apps and when I'll see that your market gives me extra >> downloads, I'll probably spend some time with adapting them to paid version >> specific for your market. Until this time it is just one from many for me. >> Sorry. >> >> I believe that the same feeling have other developers too. >> >> Tom >> >> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> We looked at that and found some developers would object to us carrying >> their free apps, hence why we don't auto-mirror. Apart from that Market uses >> closed protocols so even if we offered the option we'd be running the risk >> of it breaking if Google changed the protocol. >> >> We are looking at an upload URL where devs can submit their username, >> password, and app ID, and an APK which will add a new release to >> AndAppStore. Do people think anyone would use it? >> >> Al. >> >> -- >> >> * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* >> >> ====== >> >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company >> number 6741909. >> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >> subsidiaries. >> >> On 8 Sep 2010, at 08:16, Tomáš Hubálek wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Olivier Guilyardi <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> It's not just a few minutes of work. Dealing with alternative stores take >> some >> >> extra time on every new release. >> >> I believe that it would very help to your alternative market if you made >> automated mirroring free apps from Android market (after developers's >> approval of course). >> >> There is plenty of alternative markets and I don't want to spend time with >> filling out forms in all of them (they are different, every needs different >> set of information). But I would definitely give approval for copying my >> free apps from Android Market to alternative one (only important thing is >> that it should be always up to date). >> >> Have a good day >> >> Tom >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Android Discuss" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> >> For more options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Android Discuss" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> >> For more options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. >> >> -- >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -------------------- >> >> Tom Hubalek ([email protected]), >> >> http://android.hubalek.net,http://blog.hubalek.net/ >> >> http://facebook.com/thubalek,http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek >> >> http://twitter.com/thubalek,http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Android Discuss" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> >> For more options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Android Discuss" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Android Discuss" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Android Discuss" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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