Having worked with embedded devices and video codecs, I am all for hearing
the details .
Thanks for your comments Brian !
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From: "Brian Conrad" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [android-discuss] Re: Notice for Free Google TV Box
I was commenting on the difference between TV standards that need to be
addressed before Goggle TV could available in countries other than the
US. So I was actually responding to a statement you made.
Al Sutton wrote:
Sorry, but how does that relate to GoogleTV unit discussion?
Al.
On 6 Nov 2010, at 18:43, Brian Conrad <[email protected]> wrote:
HDMI is an interface standard whereas PAL is a European broadcast TV
standard and used in other countries such as India. The recently bygone
NTSC was the US broadcast TV standard and replaced with ATSC for HDTV.
PAL has a 25 fps (or 50 fields per second interlaced) based on 50 cycle
AC frequency and the US NTSC and ATSC still 30 fps or 60 fields per
second based on the 60 cycle AC frequency. In Europe movies are
actually sped up from 24 fps to 25 fps for broadcast but in the US
inverse telecine techniques were used for converting 24fps to 30 fps.
Broadcast TV uses MPEG-2 transport streams.
I don't think computers and their monitors have ever depended on line
cycles. The Logitech units may be able to do the standard (probably by a
factory setting) but we still have DVD and Bluray players that can't
play PAL discs and vice-versa. And the Logitech unit only comes with
HDMI. My 10 year old Pioneer HDTV only has component because HDMI wasn't
really available in a standardized form until 2005. However I use an
HDFury HDMI to component converter with my Bluray player mainly to play
DVDs upscaled as well as streaming content from services like Netflix.
Bluray disc can output over component for the time being.
Al Sutton wrote:
HDMI is a universal standard and is supported by the Logitech unit.
Al.
On 6 Nov 2010, at 16:34, Brian Conrad <[email protected]> wrote:
Do they even have a PAL version of Google TV yet? Of course one
wonders why we even care about line frequencies anymore and don't just
have a global standard. Much TV except live is filmed or video'd at 24
fps and even broadcast that way. And I can't imagine using Google TV
on a low resolution analog set. I certainly would like to do some apps
configured for HDTV (which would be landscape only).
Al Sutton wrote:
All of the current Google TV devices are aimed at the US market so it
wouldn't make sense to offer them to international developers at the
moment. The Droid seeding showed they have methods in place, and, like
with the Droid when that seeding took place, non-US devs can't make
the most of the device for technical reasons (for the droid it was
cellular standards, for GoogleTV it's the interaction with other units
& the programme data)
Once Google TV starts to spread we might see a wider seeding
programme.
Al.
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On 5 Nov 2010, at 06:04, Seni Sangrujee wrote:
I got the same email. I hope this means that the SDK will be out
soon.
do they only give the freebies to US based dev's?
The free phone device seeding earlier this year was international
(Droids for US, Nexus for Intl). This TV giveaway seems US-only:
Google TV is coming to 10,000 lucky developer
http://googletv.blogspot.com/2010/10/google-tv-is-coming-to-10000-lucky.html
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