Great points Olivier, I was thinking along the same lines but didn't know how to express it, or if others had thought in a similar way or not.
-nik On Feb 23, 3:41 am, Olivier Guilyardi <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, well, I might have a bit hijacked the discussion and emphasized the audio > side of things. About usage in general, Mark's example was quite appropriate > indeed. > > What I would say about usage is that touch-control opens new opportunities. > Especially in the field of audio, it allows for new ways of interacting with > sound. > > But for this to reach its full potential, apps must be specifically designed > for > touch control in my opinion. The touch screen must have been thought as an > essential part of user interaction since the very first line of code. This > allows for UI innovation, but may not be adapted for all types of apps. > > And PC apps, if they can work with a touch screen, are not generally designed > for it. This could change, but I'm not sure that it's viable, because when > users > think about touch control they think tablet or phone, consciously or not. > > There's a cultural side I think. > > Olivier > > On 02/22/2011 07:21 PM, niko20 wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm actually already aware of Ms. Sobhany's work, I've watched the > > Youtube videos when they first came out, but I noticed for example, > > that many user's comments brought out the fact that she could have > > easily just used real DJ decks for at least 1/3 the cost (so cost > > would be the factor here of "why would someone use a tablet?"). Also a > > lot of commentators didn't like her mixing and said her beatmatching > > was off. So I am unsure how seriously to take her. I mean it's one > > thing for someone to strike out into new ground, but maybe if I saw Dr > > Dre. using a tablet or Black Eyed Peas or something, then I'd pay more > > attention (I'm not announcing musical preferences here :) just > > examples). > > > I agree with Olivier, audio support on android, when compared to i* > > devices, is very limited in ability. My apps are mostly sequencer / > > programmable and are not designed for "instant live play" but rather, > > program and play, and I was considering adding more features such as > > Scene switching, etc like Live has the ability to do. Such a thing is > > definitely possible on Android even at this stage. Where android > > really lacks right now is audio latency more than anything - it's just > > impossible to easily do a live play type of app where you can > > synthesize a sound on the fly while playing live. That is where you > > really get hit by latency. But for programmable sequencers and > > samplers, you can easily eat up the latency just by using patterns and > > pattern switching. > > > Anyway, I digress. My original question was aimed more at the "why > > would they choose a tablet and my app when they could grab Ableton > > Live or other and put it on a tablet PC if they liked touch control". > > Although I do agree that having a real touch interface would have > > great appeal. But in an app, for example, like a MIDI or Loop > > sequencer, the touch control may be more difficult than using a mouse > > or stylus even (unless new types of operating are invented as part of > > the app). > > > So my question was really based not on technology, but usage. > > > -nik > > > On Feb 21, 2:55 pm, Olivier Guilyardi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 02/21/2011 08:37 PM, Olivier Guilyardi wrote: > > >>> On 02/21/2011 07:52 PM, Mark Murphy wrote: > >>>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Olivier Guilyardi <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>> And, clearly, DJ'ing and many other advanced music usages are not > >>> possible on > >>> Android currently. Some things can be done with audio on Android (and I > >>> did) but > >>> there are many limitations. > >> I think I'm being a bit rude here. Maybe that's because, as an audio > >> developer, > >> I have great expectations. To clarify things: as long as you can deal with > >> certain limitations (high latency, no I/O sync) then Android support does > >> work > >> correctly on many devices, and there are certainly plenty of beautiful apps > >> which could be developed on current Android tablets. > > >> For example, tablets are perfect for MIDI and OSC controllers. You can have > >> virtual sliders, knobs, VU-meters, etc... Presets for major software such > >> as > >> Live, Protools, etc.. I haven't done a survey of what's available > >> currently, but > >> I'm sure there is some room for that. And it's very feasible technically > >> IMO. > > >> -- > >> Olivier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en.
