rather, the ubuntu guys.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:

> You might want to send that to the VirtualBox guys.
>
> On 17 Jun 2011 20:21, "Vitalie Vrabie" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > for those who feel very tough and are eager to reproduce this with any VM
> solution, here are the steps:
> >
> > 1. create a fresh vm, give it 512m ram, 1 core 1 thread cpu, 20g hdd.
> > 2. install ubuntu 11.04 in it, let it partition the hdd automagically (no
> idea how much swap it allocates, probably 512m too).
> > 3. (optional) run an update on ubuntu.
> > 4. install all the required packages as described in
> http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html
> > 5. checkout froyo "-b froyo", as said in
> http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html
> > 6. try to compile, as described in
> http://source.android.com/source/building.html
> > 7. after about 8 hours on a xeon 2.4ghz you will end up with a frozen
> (not really frozen, but as described by Jason Gerecke) ubuntu.
> > 8. "power off" the VM.
> > 9. start it again.
> > 10. after some tine, ubuntu will try to update, but will fail *any*
> attempt to manipulate the packages.
> > 11. usually at this point enlightenment comes. :)
> > 12. yes, we fit in under a dozen steps!
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Linux Box Solutions <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Use a paid for VM management system and not those crap free downloads
> and you'll see the difference use something professional if you trying to do
> a professionals job no something home users use to learn and experience from
> >>
> >> www.YouTube.com/user/linuxboxsolution
> >> www.Krzyview.com
> >> www.Email-Marketers.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Jason Gerecke <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I've actually been seeing similar issues under VirtualBox 4.0.8 r71778
> >> > with a virtual quad-core 64-bit Ubuntu 11.04 guest and 64-bit Windows
> >> > 7 host. However, in my case, the VM seems to kinda-freeze (its hard to
> >> > describe -- the VM isn't locked up, but it doesn't really respond to
> >> > most input) for no apparent reason. High memory pressure, or not; high
> >> > CPU load or not. I haven't had a problem with other guests (Ubuntu
> >> > 10.11, Arch Linux, RHEL6, etc) though to be honest I haven't been
> >> > working with them as much recently...
> >> >
> >> > Since I have to reset the VM every-so-often, I've enabled full
> >> > journaling on the VMs ext4 disks. Perhaps your package manager's files
> >> > got corrupted when you reset the machine?
> >> >
> >> > Also, I'll mirror the comments that 512MB of RAM isn't going to be
> >> > enough -- my VM was swapping up a storm when compiling with "-j4".
> >> > Allocating 1 GB seemed to have solved the swapping issue, though the
> >> > more the merrier.
> >> >
> >> > Jason
> >> >
> >> > ---
> >> > Day xee-nee-svsh duu-'ushtlh-ts'it;
> >> > nuu-wee-ya' duu-xan' 'vm-nvshtlh-ts'it.
> >> > Huu-chan xuu naa~-gha.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Vitalie Vrabie
> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> what can i say...
> >> >> i really feel very happy this happened in a vm and not on my host os.
> >> >> despite its age, linux is not mature enough to live outside VMs.
> >> >> sad but true.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Linux Box Solutions
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Agreed
> >> >>>
> >> >>> www.YouTube.com/user/linuxboxsolution
> >> >>> www.Krzyview.com
> >> >>> www.Email-Marketers.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sounds like you're getting a little too emotional now.
> >> >>> In a nutshell; Get some more RAM. You'll probably need 10+GB to give
> 8GB
> >> >>> to the build.
> >> >>> Beyond that I'm afraid to tell you your view of OSes, VMs, and what
> should
> >> >>> be and should happen is, unfortunately, unlikely to have any effect
> on the
> >> >>> situation.
> >> >>> Enjoy,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Al.
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> T: @alsutton W: www.funkyandroid.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> >> >>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or
> >> >>> it's subsidiaries.
> >> >>> On 17 Jun 2011, at 16:14, Vitalie Vrabie wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> oh is it the vm?
> >> >>> or rather this supposed-to-be os, which turns out to be just an
> insult to
> >> >>> humanity?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> no ram - fail the allocation, fail the compiling.
> >> >>> but dont write swap over fs.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Because a Machine Emulators can have bugs, and running them low on
> RAM
> >> >>>> and Swap is never a good idea.
> >> >>>> I ended up getting a refund from one vendor of a VM solution
> because I
> >> >>>> saw disk corruption every time a shut down particular VMs.
> >> >>>> Al.
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> T: @alsutton W: www.funkyandroid.com
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> >> >>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or
> >> >>>> it's subsidiaries.
> >> >>>> On 17 Jun 2011, at 15:19, Vitalie Vrabie wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> not the case of this xeon.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> physical ram is 1.5G, vm is 512, lots of swap space in the vm, make
> -j1
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> still dont understand HOW A COMPILE PROCESS CAN MES UP THE PACKAGE
> SYSTEM
> >> >>>> OF UBUNTU. :(
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> 32 bit OSes can address more than 4GB using PAE (
> >> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension ).
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Al.
> >> >>>>> --
> >> >>>>> T: @alsutton W: www.funkyandroid.com
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> >> >>>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or
> it's
> >> >>>>> subsidiaries.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On 17 Jun 2011, at 15:06, Linux Box Solutions wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> No it doesn't a limitation of 32 bit systems is 4gb max
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> www.YouTube.com/user/linuxboxsolution
> >> >>>>>> www.Krzyview.com
> >> >>>>>> www.Email-Marketers.com
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Alessandro Pellizzari <
> [email protected]>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Il Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:53:37 +0300, Vitalie Vrabie ha scritto:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> where've you seen 8g on 32bit???
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Linux 32bit supports 64 GB of RAM.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Bye.
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