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On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Vitalie Vrabie <[email protected]> wrote:

> so - term coined?
> 
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Linux Box Solutions 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lol sorry :(
> 
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> On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Tim Mensch <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> It spoils the joke if you have to explain it. 
>> 
>> On 6/17/2011 12:32 PM, Linux Box Solutions wrote:
>>> 
>>> He's calling u a troll
>>> 
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>>> On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Vitalie Vrabie <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> i think it is hanging precisely because swap is overwriting fs.
>>>> and besides, i didn't know that this process is well known already and 
>>>> even has a name ("trolling"). :)
>>>> 
>>>> now i'm freshly installing ubuntu with swap on a completely different vhdd 
>>>> so it can't troll the fs anymore.
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Jason Gerecke <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I've actually been seeing similar issues under VirtualBox 4.0.8 r71778
>>>> with a virtual quad-core 64-bit Ubuntu 11.04 guest and 64-bit Windows
>>>> 7 host. However, in my case, the VM seems to kinda-freeze (its hard to
>>>> describe -- the VM isn't locked up, but it doesn't really               
>>>> respond to
>>>> most input) for no apparent reason. High memory pressure, or not; high
>>>> CPU load or not. I haven't had a problem with other guests (Ubuntu
>>>> 10.11, Arch Linux, RHEL6, etc) though to be honest I haven't been
>>>> working with them as much recently...
>>>> 
>>>> Since I have to reset the VM every-so-often, I've enabled full
>>>> journaling on the VMs ext4 disks. Perhaps your package               
>>>> manager's files
>>>> got corrupted when you reset the machine?
>>>> 
>>>> Also, I'll mirror the comments that 512MB of RAM isn't going to be
>>>> enough -- my VM was swapping up a storm when compiling with "-j4".
>>>> Allocating 1 GB seemed to have solved the swapping issue, though the
>>>> more the merrier.
>>>> 
>>>> Jason
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> Day xee-nee-svsh duu-'ushtlh-ts'it;
>>>> nuu-wee-ya' duu-xan' 'vm-nvshtlh-ts'it.
>>>> Huu-chan xuu naa~-gha.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Vitalie Vrabie
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > what can i say...
>>>> > i really feel very happy this happened in a vm and not on my host os.
>>>> > despite its age, linux is not mature enough to live outside VMs.
>>>> > sad but true.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Linux Box Solutions
>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Agreed
>>>> >>
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>>>> >> On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sounds like you're getting a little too emotional now.
>>>> >> In a nutshell; Get some more RAM. You'll probably need 10+GB to give 8GB
>>>> >> to the build.
>>>> >> Beyond that I'm afraid to tell you your view of OSes, VMs, and what 
>>>> >> should
>>>> >> be and should happen is, unfortunately, unlikely to have any effect on 
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> situation.
>>>> >> Enjoy,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Al.
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>>>> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
>>>> >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or
>>>> >> it's subsidiaries.
>>>> >> On 17 Jun 2011, at 16:14, Vitalie Vrabie wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> oh is it the vm?
>>>> >> or rather this supposed-to-be os, which turns out to be just an insult 
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> humanity?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> no ram - fail the allocation, fail the compiling.
>>>> >> but dont write swap over fs.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> 
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Because a Machine Emulators can have bugs, and running them low on RAM
>>>> >>> and Swap is never a good idea.
>>>> >>> I ended up getting a refund from one vendor of a VM solution because I
>>>> >>> saw disk corruption every time a shut down particular VMs.
>>>> >>> Al.
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>>>> >>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
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>>>> >>> On 17 Jun 2011, at 15:19, Vitalie Vrabie wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> not the case of this xeon.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> physical ram is 1.5G, vm is 512, lots of swap space in the vm, make -j1
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> still dont understand HOW A COMPILE PROCESS CAN MES UP THE PACKAGE 
>>>> >>> SYSTEM
>>>> >>> OF UBUNTU. :(
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> 
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 32 bit OSes can address more than 4GB using PAE (
>>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension ).
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Al.
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>>>> >>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
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>>>> >>>> subsidiaries.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On 17 Jun 2011, at 15:06, Linux Box Solutions wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> > No it doesn't a limitation of 32 bit systems is 4gb max
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > www.YouTube.com/user/linuxboxsolution
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>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Alessandro Pellizzari <[email protected]>
>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> >> Il Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:53:37 +0300, Vitalie Vrabie ha scritto:
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>> >>> where've you seen 8g on 32bit???
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>> >> Linux 32bit supports 64 GB of RAM.
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>> >> Bye.
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