Well, I can say that through out all of this back and forth, my opinion on
the matter has certainly changed. It's gone from "completely terrible" to
"terrible, but can be justified and used properly". As long as it's not
used improperly (which is something that should be determined on a case by
case basis) it's fine to use such a feature.


On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:25 AM, c beck <usabec...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  sent from a mobile device
> On Dec 8, 2011 7:17 AM, "Rendall" <rend...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Now I understand some of the moral tone of the objection.  The people
> who object, if I'm understanding correctly, believe that there was a
> violation of a social contract or even of the user's personal space (as
> represented by their device). Would it be different if it were a web app
> that you had to log into?
>
> For me,  yes. But I am more concerned with the potential legal
> responsibility and bad press than I care about morally offending a
> ridiculously irate user.
>
> >  Often, these users are banned for terms of use violations, and the app
> is upgraded arbitrarily.
>
> Maybe this argument could convince me.
> >
> >  In my view, no one has an inherent right to the application. The
> developer has a right to dictate the terms of use, *paid or not*.  If I
> don't like the terms of use, I am free to use another application. If the
> developer of an app makes a great app but has a TOU which shuts me down for
> some arbitrary reason, it sucks, but I am free to
> uninstall it and use another app, or write my own.
>
> The problem is this is a question for a jury if it ever come to being
> challenged.  (not that it would).
>
> -------
>
> I definitely don't have an entitlement to use any application out there,
> at will, even if I paid for it, unless I'm willing to understand and submit
> to the app's TOU.
> >
> > As for the space represented by the device, the application *is
> designed* to communicate with the mother ship.  It's *designed* to be shut
> down or upgraded. It's not handing control over the device to the
> developer, but the application itself allows remote control over its own
> function.
> >
> >
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