Hi Brian, 

Thank you for your two proposals. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 11:07 PM
> Hi,
> 
> I am mainly OK with this draft, but I see two sentences that bother me:
> 
> At the end of section 6.1.1:
> 
> >>  Defining discovery extensions is out of scope of this document. This may 
> >> be
> provided in [I-D.ietf-anima-brski-discovery].
> 
> 
> At the beginning of section 6.1.2:
> 
> >>  A more general discovery mechanism, also supporting GRASP besides DNS-
> SD with mDNS, may be provided in [I-D.ietf-anima-brski-discovery].
> 
> I don't understand the words "may be provided". The reference is listed as
> Informative, but it isn't clear to me what "may" means, since it is an 
> ambiguous
> word in English. Does it mean that the authors of brski-discovery haven't 
> decided
> yet, that the mechanisms defined in brski-discovery are OPTIONAL, or something
> else?

[stf] We included the reference to BRSKI-discovery at a very early point of 
discussing the new draft. Therefore we wrote "may". But you are correct with 
the proposals you made below, it does not sound vague so I would simply take 
your proposals over in BRSKI-PRM. I added this for traceability as issue #134

> 
> Possibly these two rewrites are what the authors intended to say:
> 
> Defining discovery extensions is out of scope of this document. For further
> discussion, see [I-D.ietf-anima-brski-discovery].
> 
> A more general discovery mechanism, also supporting GRASP besides DNS-SD
> with mDNS, is discussed in [I-D.ietf-anima-brski-discovery].
> 
> I also wonder whether the Informative reference is correct, since 
> brski-discovery is
> also standards track. Do we really want brski-prm to be published with the
> reference pointing to an I-D rather than to an RFC?

[stf] Regarding BRSKI-discovery being an informative reference, BRSKI-PRM does 
not depend on the functionality defined in BRSKI-discovery, as it utilizes the 
mDNS approach already applied in BRSKI. BRSKI-discovery enhances the capability 
detection of registrars and thus improves detecting the registrar matching the 
pledges functionality instead of trial and error. Therefore I would leave it as 
informative reference.  

Best regards
Steffen
> 
> Regards
>     Brian Carpenter
> 
> On 14-Aug-24 20:10, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> > [resending, recipient list got messed up, sorry]
> >
> > Dear ANIMA-WG
> >
> > I am hereby want to do a lightweight last call to the WG before moving 
> > draft-ietf-
> anima-brski-prm-14 to our AD, Mahesh.
> >
> > draft-ietf-anima-brski-prm-06 successfully finished WGLC in early 2023.
> > The editorial feedback from the WG lead to updates finished around 
> > draft-ietf-
> anima-brski-prm-11.
> > Afterwards, Matthias Kovatsch did a very thorough shepherd review
> > whose editorial feedback was incorporated up to the curent version, 
> > draft-ietf-
> anima-brski-prm-14.
> >
> > I am positive that all those who did provide feedback during WGLC did
> > check that their feedback was correctly addressed, i know mine and
> > Matthias (Shepherds) feedback has been addressed. Likewise, testing
> > with prototypes has successfully been done since WGLC.
> >
> > Neither WGLC feedback nor shepherd review did introduce any functional
> > changes to the protocol, but of course, the amount of restructuring
> > and and editorial improvements to the text is substantial, and this is why 
> > Mahesh
> asked us at IETF120 to check before taking over.
> >
> > Therefore i would like to give the WG a last opportunity to raise issues.
> > If no substantial issues are raised, i will pass on the draft to our AD on
> 08/23/2024 (end of next week).
> >
> > Thank you so much to everybody who helped to create this work!
> >
> > Toerless - for the chairs.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 04:20:05PM +0000, Fries, Steffen wrote:
> >> Hi Sheng,
> >>
> >> I will provide an updated version by tomorrow, incorporating the proposed
> changes.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >> Steffen
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Sheng Jiang <[email protected]>
> >>> Sent: Montag, 20. Februar 2023 04:42
> >>> To: anima <[email protected]>; Toerless Eckert <[email protected]>;
> >>> anima-chairs <[email protected]>; draft-ietf-anima-brski-prm
> >>> <draft-ietf-anima-brski- [email protected]>; ietf <[email protected]>
> >>> Cc: ietf <[email protected]>
> >>> Subject: Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-brski-prm-06, ends Feb. 15th,
> >>> 2023
> >>>
> >>> During the WGLC period, this drafts has received no objections, but
> comments.
> >>> Therefore, the chairs would draw on a passed conclusion . The WG
> >>> discussed the authors' suggestion that move the YANG components of
> >>> this to rfc8366bis and reach the consensus to respect the authors'
> >>> choice. The authors please submit an update version. Then, the document
> shepherd can move it forward.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sheng Jiang
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Dear ANIMAers,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> This message starts the two-week (*) ANIMA Working Group Last Call
> >>>> to
> >>> advance draft-ietf-anima-brski-prm-06, which specifies enhancements
> >>> to BRSKI
> >>> (RFC8995) to facilitate bootstrapping in domains featuring no or
> >>> only time limited connectivity between a&nbsp;pledge and the domain
> >>> registrar. This document's intended status is Standards Track. At
> >>> present, there is no IPR filed against this document. This document
> >>> has been ANIMA WG document since October, 2021 and has received a
> >>> lot of feedback from the WG and work from its authors. The authors
> >>> therefore think is ready for WGLC. Please send your comments by Feb.
> >>> 15th 2023. If you do not feel this document should advance, please
> >>> state your reasons why.&nbsp;Matthias Kovatsch&nbsp;is the assgined
> document shepherd.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Regards,&nbsp;
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Sheng
> >>>
> >
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