Sam,

From: "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> "Whoa Bessie" and "[MY_OPINION] Tomcat 3.x" threads in the Ant and Tomcat
> mailing lists were indications of deeper problems.  At the time of Roy's
> statement, it was not clear how these two issues were going to be
resolved.

As far as I can tell from the minutes, the underlying issues of both these
threads were dealt with at the PMC meeting. Given the resulting action on
guidelines, voting, etc, we could hope that Jakarta as a project, would
"work".

>
> > In the end I guess we are going to need to understand the role
> > of the PMC.  When the guidelines say the PMC "is responsible
> > for setting overall project direction", what does that really
> > mean in practice? How does it do carry out that role?
>
> Remember, again, the term project in this context means Jakarta.
>

Yep, that was clear. So how does the PMC set the overall direction for the
Jakarta project?

> in essense what do we (Jakarta) want
> to be when we grow up?

Indeed, this is the interesting issue. In a Jakarta project containing Ant,
tomcat, log4j, ... what is the common goal that binds them into some
cohesive community. Perhaps, Pete is right and that common goal is
something very broad such as "the best Java software (not just the best
free Java software :-)" How would the PMC set the direction on such a broad
scope?

Conor


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