All worthy pursuits!
Ter
On Mar 6, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Sam Harwell wrote:

> The main motivation behind the C# implementation of the Tool is  
> outside
> the "normal" realm of usage. Now that the C# port is available, I am
> able to reference it from other .NET assemblies and make use of  
> various
> features, such as:
>
> I can dynamically create a parser for a grammar file and run it to get
> an AST. This operation is very fast since the NFA/DFA converter and
> CodeGen tree walkers are skipped. My Visual Studio integration makes  
> use
> of this ability to provide precise IntelliSense information without  
> any
> UI delay.
>
> Overall I really use the C# port for these things:
> 1. Easier integration in Visual Studio's build system
> 2. Accuracy and performance in grammar analysis tools (which I  
> happen to
> also integrate with Visual Studio)
> 3. As a sandbox for new feature ideas and testing optimization
> possibilities
>
> My codegen stage internals do differ slightly from the Java version (a
> couple extra optimizations), but holds true to the grammar spec  
> itself.
> Even for the cases where I think the grammar spec has a couple bugs  
> I've
> made sure to not deviate from it (one with tree wildcards and one with
> rewrites referencing the enclosing rule). If this work exceeds the  
> scope
> of what you want to keep track of in P4, that's absolutely fine as  
> well;
> there are other sites it can be hosted as an independent project. :) I
> just think you deserve the first call on it since it encapsulates 95%
> your work to 5% mine.
>
> //depot/code/antlr/main/toolcs works as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terence Parr [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:50 PM
> To: Sam Harwell
> Cc: Jim Idle; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [antlr-dev] Source control for C# ports
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Sam Harwell wrote:
>
>> //depot/code/antlrcs works for me as well. I would even prefer the
>> isolation in a way, but made the other suggestion earlier based on
>> patterns I saw in the existing folder structure.
>
> Yeah, the isolation is probably a good idea given that it doesn't use
> Java antlr tool etc...
>
>>
>> Prof. Parr, did you get a chance to think about this? I believe I
>> have my port up-to-date with the tree filter parser work for both
>> the Java and CSharp3 runtimes.
>
> Wow! you're fast! Do you have a day job? Or, are you neglecting your
> school projects to work on ANTLR? ;)
>
> We should figure out how to integrate your work into the mainline
> though. Have you discussed with Johannes about integrating your
> runtimes etc...? Is he doing version 1 and two and you are doing C# 3?
> If so, maybe that should go into the main antlr area, right?
>
> The C# version of the tool itself should definitely go in a different
> area...well, what about //depot/code/antlr/main/toolcs similar to //
> depot/code/antlr/main/tool for the Java version?
>
> We should be careful that we don't splinter the ANTLR metalanguage
> with two different implementations. Can you remind me of your
> motivation behind putting the tool itself in C#? It integrated better
> with VisualStudio or something, right?
>
> Ter

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