Roland, I know where you are coming from and can not argue regarding this point. For me closed source here mean : vmware is not an open source solution... in comparaison with xen.org, kvm, qemu or proxmox ve.
I'm pretty sure Coraid did not have had the choice on this point but it is a question to ask to Vmware and/or Coraid. We are more or less in the same situation with Citrix XenServer but have been able to release and maintain a community package for 3 years : http://support.coraid.com/support/linux/distros/xensource.html http://download.alyseo.com:81/contrib/Xensource/v5.6/AoE/ http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=270988 So if it was easy to do the same on vmware then I can not imagine no one have released something so far... maybe a new community project to launch ? Regards, Yacine On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 20:14 +0200, Roland Kletzing wrote: > > For ESXi, HBA is a must have (vmware is closed source...) > i can`t follow that argument.. > what has closed source source to do with that ? > > btw - many people believe esx is closed source, but many parts of esx are > open source, > including many parts of the esx kernel, which has many drivers derived from > linux drivers. > > have a look at > http://downloads.vmware.com/d/details/esx41_os_s/ZHcqYmRwd2piZHdlZQ== > > VMware ESX/ESXi 4.1 OSS Open Source Code > http://download3.vmware.com/software/open-source/VMware-esx-4.1-GA_part1.oss.tgz > http://download3.vmware.com/software/open-source/VMware-esx-4.1-GA_part2.oss.gz > http://download3.vmware.com/software/open-source/VMware-esx-4.1-GA_part3.oss.tgz > > so, the question is if an AoE HBA is really a necissity or just an > artificial "hack" to get AoE > into ESX without signinig NDA´s for driver development..... > (maybe Vmware does not even allow such low-level development, as it is owned > by EMC, > which is a storage company....) > > regards > roland > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Yacine Kheddache" <yac...@alyseo.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:26 PM > To: "Werner Stucky" <wer...@stucky-solutions.net> > Cc: <aoetools-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [Aoetools-discuss] CORAID HBA with vblade > > > Hi Werner, > > > > For ESXi, HBA is a must have (vmware is closed source...) and Tracy has > > pointed you to the right URL (ESX FAQ). > > > > The best way IMHO for your testing is to use a Coraid Etherdrive and > > HBAs, please contact a Coraid partner for a PoC or Try & Buy. > > > > As this list is dedicated to the aoetools and driver community I suggest > > we continue this discussion in private. > > > > Regards, > > Yacine. > > > > On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 17:43 +0200, Werner Stucky wrote: > >> Hi Guys > >> > >> I need to make a decision for going with a technology for a SAN for > >> our VMWare ESXi environment. > >> > >> I would very much like to go with AoE but I need to know that the > >> standard is open and that there is no vendor lock-in. > >> > >> Does the CORAID HBA which has drivers for ESXi allow me to connect to > >> a linux server running vblade? > >> I would like to do initial testing with a linux box before making a > >> decision. I can easily start a iSCSI target and test but AoE seems a > >> bit complicated in that I need a HBA, and then I still have not > >> confirmation if this HBA will work. > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports > >> standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 & L3. > >> Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great > >> experiences on the web. 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