Hi Talli,

> bah. i'm sick of the "we need php/python/brainfuck in AOLserver to be
> successful and gain mindshare."

hm. it was a discussion about strategy ("the focus"). Of course it's easier to
abort that discussion and directly start with graphic design and IA.
And when it comes to the marketing documentation you simply write your point
of view:

> i'm really quite sick of this argument that AOLserver is hard to pitch.
> i personally have no problem doing so whatsoever. in fact, i usually
> win projects on the sole basis that we are wizards in AOLserver and the
> vast majority of these projects are with clients who had never heard of
> the system before I presented it to them.

that's great, really. Every won pitch and success is a success for AOLserver.
But a more known AOLserver would ease even your business. It's not true that
being a whizard in some technology opens all doors, or is it that you want to
tell? Or that all others are lame ducks if they loose the pitch?

> so i am happy to volunteer to design and build the new AOLserver.com on
> OpenACS (using AOLserver of course) with the latest OpenACS bugtracker
> (which is a lot better than Sourceforge's crap, and bugzilla for that
> matter) and write up the marketing documentation appropriately so that
> it's attractive and interesting to newbies. i am not volunteering to be
> the webmaster nor to maintain any of the technical docs, but I will be
> happy to do the graphic design and the IA.

IA = Information Architecture.
A profession many clients don't understand and therefore don't want to pay
much money for. In the famouse IA book (O'Reilly) the authors write, that
there is a point in client meetings where suddenly the importance of their
work is understood: One person stands up and shouts "Bah. I'm sick of the
discussion. Let's start, where's the problem?!"

Reminds me of that, sorry.


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