Dear EC members,

I second Andy's request and would like to ask EC members to investigate and
share it with APNIC members as soon as possible.

Thank you in advance.

Rgs,
Masato Yamanishi


On 14/03/19 17:58, "Andy Linton" <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Tony Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Andy,
>> >
>> > There is no specific cost centre of "Internet governance activities" in
>> > APNIC. However, Paul provided a list of the activities which may be
>> > related to Internet governance - I have listed those below this message.
>> >
>> > The budget for the Secretariat is developed in consultation with the APNIC
>> > EC each year, and approved by the EC before being presented to members.
>> > The EC are regularly updated throughout the year on the current budget
>> > status, including expenditure and income, to ensure they are fully
>> > informed.
> 
> So the answer here is either "we have no idea how much this all costs" or "we
> have an idea and we don't want to tell you" or "we have such a wide remit from
> the EC, we don't care".
> 
> In the AMM meeting, the APNIC Treasurer said:
> 
> ---
>>> >>James Spenceley:  One of the things we can do is certainly understand the
>>> extent of our investment in this.  We can work with finance on that.  In
>>> terms of creating a moratorium, I think that is possibly one step too far,
>>> but as treasurer I would like to understand exactly the investment we are
>>> making in this space and the materiality of that and continue on discussing
>>> it.
> ---
> 
> and then later in the discussion:
> 
> ---
>>> >>Andy Linton:  James, you said the moratorium is a step too far, and
>>> perhaps you are right.  But perhaps one of the  things that could be done
>>> here, if we are going to talk to membership, would be to say, as part of the
>>> accounts would be to break out the true cost of doing the Internet
>>> governance activities and also try and provide some real measurement of the
>>> real benefits it brings to this community.  I am not convinced, and I am
>>> sensing a number of other people are not convinced, that the amount of
>>> resource we spend on it actually brings us the benefits that we claim or are
>>> claimed for it. Thank you.
> 
>>> >>James Spenceley:  I take that on board.
> ---
> 
> So I'm going to ask again - can we see the numbers? Are we talking $500,000,
> $1m, $2m?
> 
> Even a low estimate would be good. Over the last twelve months, take a look
> at:
> 
> e.g. Paul, Pablo and Adam's travel and accommodation
> A component for their salaries for the IG work
> The cost of back filling this time - if they're doing this IG work then other
> activities go by the board e.g. Sanjaya was recently promoted to Deputy DG
> The cost of external parties funded to do IG work
> 
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