Personally, I do think that the current voting system is a bit rigged in favor 
of the NIRs and large ISPs voting their interests
to the exclusion of all others.

I have felt this way long before Larus existed and I continue to feel this way.

I do, however, believe that going to straight 1 member 1 vote voting would also 
be problematic in the APNIC region,
primarily because NIRs.

Rather, I think that what would make sense would be to go to a 1 entity 1 vote 
where eligible entities would
be defined as any entity that has one or more of the following:
        1.      An APNIC Membership
        2.      Resources allocated from an NIR

In this way, APNIC could move to a less block-voting dominated form of 
democracy while not disenfranchising
those currently represented. by NIRs.

Allowing those members who wish to designate their NIR as their proxy could be 
used as a solution to any
concerns over entitites not wanting to manage their own voting or pay attention 
to the process.

Owen


> On Aug 29, 2023, at 18:10, Karl Kloppenborg via APNIC-talk 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> JJ,
>  
> The system that is in place currently has been explained to you and your 
> companies collegues ad-nauseam.
> The community has spoken with many EC submissions for the CURRENT reform 
> policies, in fact when I first started defining some of the reforms (which 
> APNIC has since scrubbed up far better than I could do) I brought up the idea 
> of the “One Member, One Vote” and the overwhelming majority I spoke to were 
> happy with the current voting.
>  
> It seems you and other @larus.net collegues are pushing for this, not the 
> greater community.
> If you seriously feel this is in the best of the community, please have the 
> community respond to the orbit lists as respective APNIC members.
>  
> See you at APNIC 56.
>  
> Thanks,
> Karl.
>  
> From: JJ <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, 30 August 2023 at 10:58 am
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: [apnic-talk] Inquiry Regarding Exclusion of "One Member, One Vote" 
> in Proposed By-law Reform 2023 Resolutions
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I hope this message finds you well. 
> 
> I am writing today to address a matter of utmost significance regarding the 
> Proposed By-law Reform 2023 and the resolutions tabled therein. I have 
> reviewed the resolutions made available on the APNIC website 
> (https://www.apnic.net/about-apnic/organization/structure/proposed-by-law-reform-2023/)
>  and noticed a glaring omission – the absence of the "One Member, One Vote" 
> proposal, previously discussed in the APNIC-TALK mailing list thread 
> (https://orbit.apnic.net/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/thread/ZKCVGBHGPQZIYXX74W6PF4QXDT3AJXJY/#U3OWTE7ZI2CT5AFVJMAJYKQYFORE2UBA).
> 
> The principle of "One Member, One Vote" is not only a cornerstone of 
> transparency and inclusivity but also a fundamental tenet of fair governance 
> in organizations such as APNIC. It serves as a means to ensure that every 
> member's voice is heard and equally weighed in decision-making processes, 
> fostering an environment of democratic participation. Therefore, its 
> exclusion from the tabled resolutions raises serious concerns about the 
> direction our community is heading in terms of democratic representation and 
> decision-making.
> 
> Given the extensive discussions that have taken place on the APNIC-TALK 
> mailing list, it is perplexing to witness the absence of "One Member, One 
> Vote" in the proposed resolutions. I believe it is our collective 
> responsibility to seek clarity on this matter. I kindly invite the EC to 
> provide an explanation for the omission of such a crucial proposal. Shedding 
> light on the rationale behind this decision would not only address the 
> concerns of many within the community but also reinforce the transparency and 
> accountability that APNIC has consistently strived to uphold.
> 
> In light of the above, I urge the EC to engage with the community and address 
> this issue promptly. The APNIC community has always thrived on open dialogue 
> and collaborative decision-making, and it is imperative that we uphold these 
> values during this crucial phase of proposed reforms.
> 
> I eagerly anticipate a response that will clarify the reasons for the 
> exclusion of "One Member, One Vote" from the Proposed By-law Reform 2023 
> resolutions.
> 
> Thank you for your attention to this matter.
> 
> JJ Yap
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