Hi Vivek,

 

There is such a thing as a lease-to-own transfer, which ends up as a transfer. 
And there are those who might be considering transfer versus lease, and that 
definitely comports with the Charter for this list, which requires “topics 
relevant to IPv4 transfers”.

 

Everything you wrote below is true and factual but deftly elides the meaningful 
point, which is that leasing is not prohibited at APNIC.

(Although leased-out addresses would not count towards justifying a new 
purchase.)

 

If I am wrong, please let us know by telling us what law, policy or contract 
term with APNIC would be violated by an APNIC resource holder leasing blocks to 
non-connected customers. And would that subject them to revocation risk? 

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Mike Burns

IPTrading.com

 

 

From: Vivek Nigam <[email protected]> 
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2022 9:34 PM
To: Raquel Wellington <[email protected]>; mailman_apnic-transfers 
<[email protected]>
Subject: [apnic-transfers] Re: /16 Lease

 

Hi Raquel,

 

APNIC policy does not have any provisions for leasing of IP addresses on their 
own. There was a policy proposal for temporary transfer prop-119 but it did not 
reach consensus and was withdrawn by the author.

 

https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-119

 

APNIC Members can delegate address space to their downstream customers, which 
are operating networks. Such delegations are non-portable and must be returned 
to the Member if the downstream customer ceases to receive connectivity from 
the Member.

 

We have a transfer policy which allows the transfer of unused IPv4 address 
between APNIC Members as well as other RIR members. For more information, see

 

https://www.apnic.net/transfer

 

Please note the IPv4 transfers mailing list is only for the discussion of 
transfers, not leasing.

 

APNIC Transfers Charter:

The APNIC Transfer mailing list was created to provide a forum enabling the 
sources and recipients of IPv4 address transfers, as well as IPv4 brokers, to 
discuss topics relevant to IPv4 transfers.

 

Hope this information helps.

 

Regards,

Vivek

 

From: Raquel Wellington <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Date: Saturday, 4 June 2022 at 8:49 am
To: mailman_apnic-transfers <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: [apnic-transfers] /16 Lease

Hello all,

 

We have a clean /16 available for lease…. 

 

Please let us know if you have any interest 😊

 

IPv4 Vault LLC
Raquel Wellington
Asset Recovery Specialist
+1 (424) 258-4758
 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]

 

 

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