Is anyone familiar with work on human exposure to kaolin clay in an orchard 
setting?  A pulmonary disease referred to as "kaolinosis" has been identified 
in people who had high exposure to clay dust.  What about lower levels of 
exposure, year after year, to orchard workers or pick-your-own apple customers? 
   


Not sure we can even say that kaolin is beyond suspicion.    


Ken Hall
Edwards Apple Orchard, Inc.
7061 Centerville Road
Poplar Grove, IL 61065
Ph:     815-765-2234
Fx: 815-765-1072
Cl:     815-520-5764
Email: [email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: Fleming, William <[email protected]>
To: Apple-Crop <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jul 23, 2010 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!



I wouldn’t say organic pesticidesmore toxic to the environment but the fact 
that most are so broad spectrum thatthey kill beneficials as well as pests. 
That makes them unecological. as comparedto many of the modern pesticides that 
are very specific in their targets. Plusmany times when you kill the 
beneficials you cause a whole new set of problemsthat have to be addressed. You 
end up having to spray even more.
Just the fact that organic pesticides areshort lived also makes them 
unecological in increased fuel usage when several spraysmay be needed to take 
the place of one conventional material.
 

Bill Fleming
Montana State University
Western Ag Research Center
580 Quast Ln
Corvallis, Montana



From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Robert kuljis
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:46AM
To: Apple-Crop
Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: RE:...andcauses you to be fat too!

 
I agree to buy local , but how can you say that organic pesticides aremore 
toxic to the enviornment?  Lets see, kaolin clay, entrust(soilorganism), 
pyrethreum(breaks down VERY fast, as opposed to synthetic versionwhich last 
longer).  How are these  more toxic then man madechemicals which do not break 
down? they break down into compounds that stillhave no analog in nature..

 

On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:18 AM, <[email protected]>wrote:





It is more important to know where your foodis grown!   We have seen salmonella 
from melons and scallions from Mexicoand Asia. The USA has the Food & Drug 
Administration that tightly regulatespesticides and their application.  Foreign 
foods do not!  Somepesticides are not applied to the food at all but on small 
plastic tabs thatare clipped on branches to act as a deterrent to the bug.  
Organic foodgrowers use pesticides also, just more often because the product 
does not lastas long.  Many organic pesticides are more toxic to the 
environment thanthe standard commercial grower uses.  I know because I am a 
commercialgrower of apples. Pesticides in the run off stream water from the 
home gardeneris one of the biggest offenders of pollution.   Consumers should 
usecommon sense and wash everything raw before eating it.  don't 
deprivechildren of good nutrition because of a sensational hit article that may 
bedesigned to  garner contributions to their non-profit cause.  We growthe 
safest food in the world.  Support your local farmer's market and buyAmerican!




To: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Subject: Apple-Crop: ...and causes you to be fattoo!
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:47:28 -0400

 

the current lead storyon Yahoo - 
http://shine.yahoo.com/event/loveyourbody/why-you-cant-lose-those-last-10-pounds-1964849/

 

"...See, an apple a day mayhave kept the doctor away 250 years ago when 
Benjamin Franklin included thephrase in his almanac. But if that apple comes 
loaded with obesity-promotingchemicals — nine of the ten most commonly used 
pesticides are obesogens,and apples are one of the most pesticide-laden foods 
out there — thenBen’s advice is way out of date...."

 

I lookforward to market saturday -

 

DavidDoud - 

 

grower -indiana

 

 

 

 

 


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