Mr. Kuljis, your response causes me considerable pain for several different reasons. First, where did you come up with data indicating that 40% of green house gas emissions result from agriculture? I find that figure very difficult to believe, although I am not an expert on greenhouse gasses. However, very quick search on google led me to the EPA report available at http://epa.gov/climatechange/emissions/downloads10/US-GHG-Inventory-2010_Report.pdf, which, on page ES-11 provides data indicating that agriculture in 2008 accounted for 6.1% of greenhouse gas emissions whereas 86% of greenhouse gas comes from energy usage. I'm not certain how EPA came up with their numbers, but even if their numbers for ag do not include any of the energy burned on farms or used for making fertilizers, I'd be surprised if adding those items would bring the total to 40%. And then how does one "charge" for the emissions costs involved in transporting food? Is that a charge to agriculture? Shouldn't that be charged to all of the east coast elites who have chosen to live far away from where their food is produced? Perhaps we could reduce greenhouse gas emissions considerably just by forcing people to relocate across the country so that population distribution across the US would be more closely aligned with the food production capabilities of the surrounding country side. That would also reduce the numbers of people who commute an hour or more each day to work in cities where they cannot afford to live. Obviously, relocating the US population is not a realistic suggestion, but it is no more of a stretch than the suggestion that we could feed our population using organic methods and biocontrols if we only tried a bit harder. I agree with you that our current ag system (for that matter, our entire society) has become dependent on systems that are NOT sustainable in the long term. However, as a scientist who has spent most of my career working with agrichemicals, I am pained by the naïveté that comes through when you imply that we could make organic methods and biocontrols work effectively to feed the world if we just put more money into the appropriate kinds of research. For most of our major crops and their major pests, we already have a pretty good understanding of pest biology, life cycles, crop susceptibility, etc. And we know that biocontrols work best in situations where some crop loss can be tolerated because, unlike agricultural pesticides, biocontrols are almost never 100% effective. Biocontrols work by creating balances that usually allow at least a low survival rate for the pest being controlled. Unfortunately, American and European consumers demand food that is 100% free of pests, blemishes, and contaminants (e.g., fungal mycotoxins) that might cause illness or death. Microscopic levels of insect parts are regulated even in our canned foods where they would cause no harm. Thus, by definition, consumers are demanding food that, at least in terms of horticultural crops, cannot be produced in sufficient quantities using organic methods and biological controls. More ag research will NOT change that fact. Agriculture will be able to change only as the whole of American society changes their views on what is important in life. Agriculture, ag universities, research scientists, and agrichemical companies should not be blamed for the evolution of a non-sustainable ag system that is largely by-product of American society as a whole. Change will only occur after someone succeeds in getting the attention of the majority of self-centered gas-guzzling SUV-owners who live in MacMansions and who can't be bothered to think beyond the latest diatribes and half-truths that they have heard on fact-free radio and TV programs. Most proponents of organic still have an idealized air-brushed image of organic production in the US. Organic does not mean "without pesticides," although some short-season organic vegetables may not require any pesticides. For the most part, large-scale organic production in the US still functions by replacing pesticides with irrigation in the dry land areas in the west and southwest. Even in these areas, organic growers who encounter persistent problems with weeds or insect pests may rotate their land back to conventional production periodically so that they can get pest problems under control before they go back through the 3-yr recertification process for organic. Thus, farms that produce the majority of organic fruits and vegetables for supermarket chains do not fit the idyllic image of the small family-owned farm where perfect produce pops out of the naturally fertile soil with almost no work at all. In fact, I suspect that organic farms must use more energy for tillage and pest control than conventional farms. Therefore I doubt that organic production will ultimately provide any reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. I'm sorry, but reducing greenhouse gasses will not be easy, and the major reductions are unlikely to come from agriculture unless we first agree that large-scale human starvation should be part of the solution. We need to continue doing our best to reduce energy inputs in agriculture, but we also need to convince consumers that not all food looks perfect and that none of life is risk-free. Finally, this is a personal bias, but I suspect that one might have greater success in finding options for rapid decreases in energy use and greenhouse gas emissions if one targeted the military-industrial complex rather than agriculture, but that might attract the ire of the fact-free media crowd!

I think that is a good point about the kaolin,,, I know the non ag
formulations for pottery have all kinds of warnings for cancer,
inhalation threat, etc.. A simple particle mask would probably take
care of most of it. Not that it is that much fun to wear a mask all
the time while working in the trees.    Of course there are lots of
unknowns with chemicals as well.   The problem we have is that the
chemicals are extremely lucrative for giant companies who control
much of the university funding, so much less research and development
goes into non chemical methods. These methods could be much much
cheaper.
Considering that conventional ag is responsible for at least 40% of
greenhouse gas emissions, mostly due to petroleum based fertilizer,
conversion to an ecological organic ag system seems to be not only
healthier, but a prerequisite for survival at this stage..
  Some things that can help with the application of either organic or
chem materials would be monitoring, understanding the disease/pest
life cycle,, implementing and enhancing biological controls. These
have come a long way, but the scale of the efforts is much higher on
the end of the paradigm that wants growers to keep putting out
chemicals whose ultimate cost is much more then the $ amount paid.
Robert Kuljis
Thomas Paine Farms



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