William, 

I agree with what you said about the diversity of opinions.  I was briefly
pointing out the other side to Mr. Kuljis.  I should say that the extension
personnel in Michigan are, for the most part, extremely knowledgeable
helpful and much appreciated.  Even those that would prefer an organic
system are quite practical in their everyday workings with growers.
Finally, since I seem to be glued to a spray rig for way too much of the
spring and summer, I would love to raise a beautiful crop of fruit with very
limited use of pesticides.  

Mark Evans

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I've found there is a great diversity of viewpoints in most hort departments
Mark. If there is a shift, it's because there was a time when the prevailing
opinion was that organic was viewed with skepticism. Some faculty still hold
that view, while there are others that now view the conventional side with
skepticism. We need to solve problems from both viewpoints so both sides
provide valuable services. I know some of the faculty at MSU and believe the
great majority of them are pretty balanced in their approach. And believe
me, the last folks who should be their detractors are growers. I hope you
can keep them over the next few years. These will be lean times in
University systems and I expect most universities will see student education
as their primary mission.


William H. Shoemaker
Sr. Research Specialist, Food Crops
University of Illinois - Crop Sciences
St Charles Horticulture Research Center
535 Randall Road, St Charles, IL, 60174
630-584-7254, FAX-584-4610 
[email protected]


Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!

While Robert Kuljis worries about the influence of giant companies, others,
including myself, worry about the influence of left-leaning foundations
funneling money to university departments (e.g. C.S. Mott Foundation).
Further, and perhaps more important, is the political/environmental
viewpoint of many of the current staff at most hort departments.  The fact
that most growers are conservative and the universities/staff/extension
personnel that provide services/information to growers tend to be much more
sympathetic to "organic" or environmentalists is very curious.

Mark Evans 
Michigan   




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