Mosbah and everyone else,

In my experience with Honeycrisp on Bud 9, I had a few trees runt-out when
I put them on a irrigation schedule that let the soil become too dry. I am
new at all of this and let the soil get to the level of being moist (at 4”
depth)  but not wet between waterings. I used an Irrometer at 14" and
cycled the trees between 50 and 20. In all my 40+ years of growing, this
would be sound horticultural practice, but with Honeycrisp on Bud 9, this
doesn’t work well. I believe Honeycrisp on Bud 9 must be watered past the
existing roots, (to encourage deep roots) and then deeply watered again
well before any signs of stress. I talked to a top Honeycrisp grower in
Washington and he told me to “never let them get even slightly dry.” I
changed my watering schedule to apply 1.25” of irrigation every 5 days in
the summer, and the trees are doing well. My thoughts…


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Dr. Chiranjit Parmar <
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> -----Original Message----- From: Kushad, Mosbah M
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:23 AM
> To: Apple-crop discussion list ; Jon Clements
>
> Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Apple Bloom and Crop Potential
>
> Drought can be devastating, especially to honeycrisp on some rootstocks.
>  I am not in my office to look up the data, but the graft union of
> Honeycrisp grafted to some of the Geneva rootstocks and Malling 26 Emla
> dried up and split suggesting that the union is not very strong.  The trees
> are about five years old trained to the tall spindle tied to four wires.
>  The wires did little to prevent the snapping of the graft union.
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] [apple-crop-bounces@
> virtualorchard.net] on behalf of Hugh Thomas [[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:09 PM
> To: Jon Clements; Apple-crop discussion list
> Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Apple Bloom and Crop Potential
>
> Nikki,
> I don't have any direct experience with drought on apples but I'm guessing
> the problems will be huge. I lived in California for over 20 years and 3
> irrigations in California during the summer is almost not enough for many
> "drought tolerant" trees. I will be very interested in knowing how it all
> works out for you. Best of luck.
>
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Jon Clements <[email protected]<
> mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> You forgot to mention how A-Maze-'N-Apples is doing?
>
> http://www.goodfruit.com/a-mazing-new-technology/
>
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:31 PM, <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> After a devastating 2012 when most of the northern Illinois growers lost
> most of their crop as the result of the extremely warm March and early
> bloom that was destroyed by late frost, we had a bumper crop in 2013.  We
> lost 70% of our crop in 2012!  Despite thinning by hand, the trees over
> produced so much that we had the bumper crop even after thinning.  Since we
> irrigate, we have not been bothered much by drought situations, but the
> trees are still under tremendous stress due to all the weather extremes in
> the past two years.
>
> Anticipating thinner bloom this spring, we also have a much cooler spring.
> Green tip started around the 15th of April for us and we did not see pink
> until the first week of May.  Zestar, Liberty Snowsweet and Pristine are
> now bloom.  Some trees are very thin on bloom, and we still have others at
> tight cluster.  Right now we have varieties from tight cluster to pink to
> bloom, which we generally have never seen.  Normally we are at pink and
> bloom in all four orchards at the same time We are anticipating a very long
> bloom period since our daytime highs have been in the high 40's to low 50's
> since bloom began on May 10/11.  We have also received over 4" of rain
> since that time as well!
>
> The crop load is very sporadic in the trees that are now in bloom and we
> anticipated a light load, but never anticipated such a stretched out
> spring. We are still not sure what the overall crop load will be like until
> we get some warmer weather and see how much fruit sets.  We had lows of 35
> and 38 Thursday and Friday night and the bees have just begun to fly.  The
> predicted temperatures for the coming week should bring out the rest of
> bloom and the bees, with highs predicted in the mid 60's and lower 70's.
>  We have had 273 DD since March 30 and only 274 since January 1.  We should
> have about 5% +/- codling moth flight, but none trapped so far.  We have
> only seen only 24 DD since May 12 and are anticipating a long bloom period.
>  On the bright side, Zestar has a heavy crop load, just as it did last
> season and will have to be heavily thinned.  Pristine is sporadic as is
> Liberty, but Snowsweet looks very balanced.  Honeycrisp is very, very
> sporadic, as expected.  This season and next we will have to do everything
> we can to balance the crop load for 2016.  That is if the weather
> cooperates!!
>
> We have had some winter injury to tree trunks, but nothing compared to the
> vole damage!  We had so much snow cover this past winter we could not get
> back out into the orchards to put out more bait and repellent.  The damage
> is not as bad as it could have been, but still the worst we have ever seen.
> Tree loss is at a minimum, which is the good news!  We did lose most of our
> peach trees planted in 2013.....they simply froze in our-10 to -26 degree
> temps for most of the winter!
>
> Such is life as an apple grower!
>
> Dennis Norton
> IPM Specialist/Certified Nurseryman
> Royal Oak Farm Orchard
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Win Cowgill<mailto:[email protected]>
> To: Apple-crop discussion list<mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:58 AM
> Subject: [apple-crop] Apple Bloom and Crop Potential
>
> Hello Apple Croppers-
>
> This winter was a tough one for growers in New England, New York and the
> Mid Atlantic (New Jersey).
> I am wondering what the apple crop potential is in your states, provinces,
> countries this season?
>
> How was your bloom? Good pollination? Winter injury to trees.
>
> I know growers in Virginia had winter injury to apple tree trunks.
> Massachusetts and Vermont light on bloom? How did Western New York fair?
>
> How did my friends in Quebec make out?
>
> Look foreword to your responses.
>
> Best
>
> Win
>
>
>
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