Hello everyone,

There is a difference between an acidifier and a buffer.  If you add an acid to 
the spray tank, that will lower the pH, but how far depends upon your water 
source, how much acid you put in the tank, what products you have in the tank, 
and how much of that substance is put in there.  It is difficult to predict or 
adjust accurately.

A buffer usually lowers the pH to a level that is specific to that buffering 
product, and holds it there (as long as you have put the appropriate dose of 
the buffer in the mix.)

It is difficult to know when a buffer or acidifier is necessary, though they 
are often beneficial when you have "hard" water at the spray fill.  Some plant 
protectant products are alkaline by nature, and are chemically altered when 
acidified.  The Kocide 3000 label, for example, directs to keep the pH above 
6.5, and I'm certain there are many other examples.  This is difficult to keep 
straight as you change your plant protectants as appropriate during the season. 
TO buffer or not to buffer

The only guideline you can trust: read the label carefully and hope that this 
issue has been addressed there.

Tim Smith
Washington State University
Wenatchee




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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fleming, William
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:16 AM
To: Apple-crop discussion list
Subject: Re: [apple-crop] lowering ph in spray solution

I've used vinegar occasionally but am only lowering the pH by .2
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but it's been my understanding the spray water 
pH doesn't make much difference if you spray right after mixing and don't let 
the tank sit.
The decrease in performance data I've seen was done with a tank mix that sat 
for three hours.

Bill Fleming
Montana State University
Western Ag Research Center
580 Quast Lane
Corvallis, MT 59828

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 [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Evans
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:05 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [apple-crop] lowering ph in spray solution

The water for spraying on our farm is currently 7.7.  We have used vinegar, 
Tri-fol, Li-700 and several other products to reduce ph.   I would like to know 
what products list members prefer to accomplish this task without using a 
spreader-sticker/penetrant.  I've considered using anhydrous citric acid but 
have found little horticultural data on its use.

Thankyou,

Mark A. Evans
Frankfort, Michigan
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