: Just to be clear, I'm not offended by the price of the card.  The
: card is worth what people are willing to pay for it.  What was
: getting on my nerves was your insistence that a IIgs needs one in
: order to be useful.  That sort of mentality is, IMHO, both misleading
: and detracts from a potential pool of collectors who are simply
: interested in cheap toys (by choice or by economic circumstances).

My point is that he WILL want to do more as he gets used to it, 
and maybe if more people had IIgs's that could handle it, there 
would be more developers willing to create new software or port 
over more from other platforms. 

: If you were going to pay $17 for an additional 756 kB of RAM, I
: would agree.  But that price shouldn't be taken seriously because
: that type of RAM can be found by the boatload, perhaps the owner
: of the IIgs has it and perhaps somebody would offer it up cheap.

I'd be glad to sell him 24 x 41256's for $12, if he wants them. 
Think about it, if he had the chips, why'd he bother asking in 
the first place? 

: Which raises the question: why haven't you?  A design which uses
: two 4 MB SIMMs should be a great deal more simple, and I seem to
: recall that the address space of a IIgs is 16 MB.  While the other
: 8 MB is read-only, a bank-switching scheme may allow you an 8 MB
: ROM disk using a design similar to your current card.

You think it's so easy to interface a 4 MB simm to the Apple IIgs 
memory expansion port, you do it. That's why, and it's not simpler. 
Duh, read on my friend, the first, and only the first 4 MB of 
IIgs ram is directly addressable. The rest has to be decoded by 
means of loads of logic. Look at the Sirius 8 MB card, which by 
the way requires removal of simm 8 when used in a rom03. Also, 
some IIgs ram cards actually turned off the onboard expansion ram. 
Better not mess with someone who has researched this in the past 
several years. You don't think I'm doing this from 20 year old 
memories, do ya? 

: I collect old Macs as well, and I don't really see people claiming
: that you need X amount of RAM or a machine with processor Y in
: order to make it useful (well, there is the G5 or bust crowd, but
: how many people collect anything higher than a G3 and I don't
: collect anything higher than a 68040 personally).  This mentality
: makes them a much more plesant bunch to hang around.


Go hang with them then. I certainly don't need you. 
Just kidding. I'm actually enjoying this interaction. 

Thanks.   :o) 

Bill Garber 



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