> On Mar 28, 2017, at 1:25 AM, Jonathan Morton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 28 Mar, 2017, at 04:04, Rong Pan (ropan) <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Q1. What were the reasons for introducing such a frequent suppression of
>>> the PI algorithm (the RFC just says what this code does, not why)?
>> 
>> To be work conserving and avoid any unnecessary drops are the main reasons
>> behind it. 
>> Cisco had a not so successful algorithm before that is not work
>> conserving. So we are extra cautious about being work conserving...
> 
> AQM algorithms are by definition *not* work-conserving, because they can drop 
> packets.  By *definition*.  I therefore think you’re chasing a non-goal here, 
> and you’re going to have to justify it much more clearly if it’s going to 
> make it into an RFC.
> 
> By all means, avoid dropping packets when the queue is actually empty - that 
> is, when you’re delivering the last packet in the queue.  In that case, there 
> is no congestion to signal for.  But there really is no need to have any 
> complex state-switching logic for that.  If your underlying algorithm is 
> sound, it will naturally decay to zero packet drops if the empty-queue 
> condition persists.

I'm not convinced I understand the definitions of "work conserving" and "non 
work conserving" in this context. A "work conserving" scheduling algorithm 
keeps an interface transmitting as long as there is data in the queue, while a 
non-work-conserving algorithm reduces the effective rate of the interface by 
spacing packets out. 
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