>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:43:37 -0800
>From: "Steve Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Arachne load error
>
>Bart,
>I don't recall any such choice in the setup.  Mind spoon feeding me a bit
>here?  Is "use bootp" something new with version 1.60?  Again, I am still
>trying to get 1.48 - 1.50 working.  And I am using (successfully?) the
>dialer that came with the Arachne download (miniterm?).   How did you know
>that the "load error" was due to insufficient memory?  Thanks much for the
>kind attention.
>
>Steve
>
>- -- Original message --
>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:30:23
>From: Van Voordturen <labrat@xs4all
>
>Have you tried checking "use bootp" in the external dialer setup yet?
>(I got a load error due to insufficient memory with 1.60, bootp was the
>solution)
>
>(if the package driver loads, modem and port settings must be good)
>
>Bart
>
>
When I first installed 1.69b1, core.exe refused to start, but echoed
something like "insufficient memory, xxx bytes missing". In previous
installations, I always used a minimal configuration, but because I like to
start multiple dos programs (different arachne versions, telnet and minuet)
from a batch menu (that also calls miniterm to log in), I'm happy to see
all programs can ignore the contents of ppp.log (even if batch files check
for its existence) when they use bootp. (I'm not sure what it is, but I
guess it must be a protocol in which a program sends some standard signal
to a package driver, which then returns an ip number from a server, instead
of getting the number from local source such as environment or ppp.log).
In arachne versions 1.4x bootp can be activated from .\dialer.htm, upper
left block. Currently the same page is in .\system\gui\conf_ext.ah; both
reachable by pressing hotkey "O", tcp/ip setup, external dialup driver OR
from the dialpage (ppp_init.htm), ppp setup, external diler setup screen.
Yet I doubt wether your problem is with the hardware or arachne
configuration. It would be good to know what OS you are using, and how
you're conventional memory is set up. (try "mem/d>memtest.txt" and then
attach the resulting file memtest.txt to a message, or attach config.sys)
Anyway, there are a couple more people on the list who actually have 586
cpu and/or win9x experience...
Follows my "xs4dos.bat" 
Notes:
1. The copying, moving and deleting of ppp.log is meant forbatch files
only, to check wether "probably online". If hangup is done from one
directory, the file is also deleted in others)
2. D:\arc is where my arachne 1.49 is; I just never rewrote this batch.
3. "choice" is m$-dos for "ask" or "be ask" (norton) or whatever other menu
application.
4. If you edit a batch from within that batch, don't be surprised to find
yourself at another line of that batch.
5. The startup option for minuet was replaced after I removed minuet for
diskspace... (But I guarantee that it's as easy as starting tenet; use
minuet/news for best results, since minuet mail and www are obsolete for
the vga, since arachne exists. If there are recent minuet versions, I'd
like to know...)(try http://www.xs4all.nl/~rjscheer for the old version)
6. Of course xs4dos.bat is called from info.bat (option "DOS INTERNET",
next to win3.11, monkey linux, NewDeal, Norton 5 (overlayed, high
loadable), fax for dos etc.) which is called from autoexec.bat, if
"%config%" only is set to "batz" from startup menu, but that just happens
to be the default in 1 second...
(Just waiting 'till the 586 gets to the trashcan where I found this 486)
7. D: is a secondary physical hdd, reserved for dos programs, to be easily
transplanted in another pc. Also handy to contain a permanent memory swap,
so that linux and windows have faster access to their virtual memory,
because physical movements are divided over two hdd's. 
8. ARACHNE.DIGEST V1 #1000 appeared and I overslept...

XS4DOS.BAT
_________________________________________________________________________
@echo off
d:
cd \arc
:menu
if exist g:\arc\ppp.log if not exist d:\arc\ppp.log copy g:\arc\ppp.log d:\arc
if exist d:\arc\ppp.log if exist g:\arc\core.exe if not exist
g:\arc\ppp.log copy d:\arc\ppp.log g:\arc
cls
if exist ppp.log echo Waarschijnlijk online...
if not exist ppp.log echo Waarschijnlijk niet online...
if exist g:\arc\core.exe echo Arachne 1.50 op Ramdrive G:
echo ...............
echo [A]rachne WWW en mail
if not exist g:\arc\core.exe echo [R]amdrive installeren met arachne 1.50
if exist ppp.log echo [T]elnet  open xs4.xs4all.nl; Login labrat
if exist ppp.log echo [F]tp     open xs4.xs4all.nl; Login labrat
if exist ppp.log echo m[I]cq
echo x.edit arachne.cfg
echo 5. Dos shell
echo 6. stop
if exist ppp.log echo 7. hang op
if not exist ppp.log echo 7. login met slip/ppp bij xs4all          
echo [E]dit menu
echo ara[C]hne 1.50 beta c
echo arac[H]ne 1.60 beta
echo ...............
choice /c:atfim67er5cxh>nul
if errorlevel 13 goto arc16b
if errorlevel 12 goto eda
if errorlevel 11 goto arc15c
if errorlevel 10 goto shell
if errorlevel 9 goto ram
if errorlevel 8 goto ed
if errorlevel 7 goto bel
if errorlevel 6 goto end
if errorlevel 5 goto minuet
if errorlevel 4 goto micq
if errorlevel 3 goto ftp
if errorlevel 2 goto telnet
if errorlevel 1 goto arachne
:arc16b
call a16.bat
goto menu
:eda
pe arachne.cfg
goto menu
:arc15c
call aa.bat
goto menu
:shell
echo Type exit voor menu...
d:
cd\arc
%comspec%
d:
cd\arc
goto menu
:ram
if exist g:\*.* tree g:\ /f |more
echo ramdisk vervangen?
choice
if errorlevel 2 goto menu 
xmsdsk 3500 g: /y
if %comspec%*==g:\command.com* call setg.bat
g:
md \arc
cd \arc
pkunzip -d c:\arcc\arc150
d:
goto menu
:ed
pe c:\batz\xs4dos.bat
smartdrv /c
xs4dos
:bel
if exist ppp.log goto hang
@miniterm>ppp.log
@epppd>>ppp.log
goto menu
:arachne
if exist g:\arc\core.exe goto arcram
call arachne.bat 
goto menu
:arcram
g:
cd \arc
if exist d:\arc\ppp.log copy d:\arc\ppp.log>nul
call arachne.bat
d:
goto menu
:telnet
telnet
goto menu
:ftp
ftp
goto menu
:micq
micq\micq
goto menu
:minuet
goto menu
:hang
termin.com 0x60
if exist d:\arc\ppp.log del d:\arc\ppp.log
if exist g:\arc\ppp.log del g:\arc\ppp.log
set myip=
set remip=
set peermru=
set netmask=
if %stop%*==stop* goto stop
goto menu
:end
if exist ppp.log echo Waarschijnlijk nog online, ophangen?
if exist ppp.log choice /c:jn 
if errorlevel 2 goto stop
set stop=stop
goto hang
:stop
set stop=
____________________________________________________________________________
____
follows AA.BAT
____________________________________________________________________________
____
@Echo Off
D:
cd D:\ARACHNE
if exist d:\arc\ppp.log copy d:\arc\ppp.log
call arachne.bat %1 %2 %3 %4
if not exist ppp.log if exist d:\arc\ppp.log del d:\arc\ppp.log
if exist ppp.log if not exist d:\arc\ppp.log move ppp.log d:\arc
if exist ppp.log del ppp.log
d:
cd\arc
____________________________________________________________________________
____
A16.BAT is a copy from AA.BAT with other directories.

Bart

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