On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 04:47:54PM -0800, Richard Gananathan wrote:
> > I should note that I /can/ read messages from my friend. I just couldn't > read my test message I sent from a free yahoo account. I guess this is > Yahoo's fault. It's possible--I don't think I've come across Japanese mail in yahoo. > > I have resorted to sending emails with gmail. It seems that emails sent > by gmail can be read by all of us. (I can even read them in mutt.) I think that gmail either defaults to UTF-8 or that you can set your preferences to make it so. (I've forgotten which, but when I've tested with my gmail account, like you, I could read it.) > > > He uses his cell phone to send emails. He has a KDDI cellphone. I wonder > if that would be unicode or shift-JIS. If I remember correctly, there was a discussion about this on TLUG, the Tokyo Linux User Group list, and Japanese cells tend to use Shift-JIS. If the problem comes up again though, you could try using iconv. I'm not sure how familiar you've become with mutt, but you can do a command while in mutt by typing an exclamation point. ! iconv -f whatever -t utf-8 The way to check the encoding is to, while looking at the email, hit e as in edit. Among other things, this shows all headers. Then do a search for charset. (Just as you would in vi, by hitting /chars) > > But what if it is unicode? Maybe the test message I sent with Yahoo was > made Shift-JIS for some reason and I can't read it on mutt becase I > might not have Shift-JIS support. That's possible. Again, you should be able to convert it--it's a bit of a pain, and I haven't come across it in awhile, so I'm not sure if you can do it on the fly or if you have to save the converted message to a file and read that file. > > For the time being I'm resorting to sending emails with gmail because > I'm too embarrassed to try anything. Heh, don't be embarrassed (unless the friend is some sort of senpai and made fun of you.) :) As has been said, don't try and lose a few moments of embarrassment while gaining a lifetime of ignorance. :) However, if he's reading them on the cellphone, then gmail might be the only resort. > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:17:14AM -0500, Scott wrote: > > You need an xterm capable of handling it, rxvt-unicode or mlterm. > > Actually, even with xterm you can use uxterm. > > If my terminal can see Japanese filenames with ls, mv, cp and the basic > utilities as well as play Japanese songs with mpc. (ncmpc doesn't seem > to work for some reason.) I think my terminal passes the test. (xfce's > Terminal.) Yup, scratch that idea. > > Thanks for your help again. (Don't think you remember the first time > because you pointed me to your page again, hehe. I should say good work > on that page, it sure saved my life.) Thank you. It's always nice to hear such things. (By the way, I have a mutt page too, http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/mutt.html) Thanks to Damir's hard work, Arch is one of the easy ones when it comes to Japanese. pacman -S scim-anthy and you're set for the basics. Asian character support has come a LOOOONG way. If you can find it, take a look at Mr. Oda's Japanese in Linux howto from 1997 or so, and see how difficult it used to be. In Windows it became easy with Windows 2000--maybe ME, I don't know, I never used that one. Mac was easy even back in the 90's. Mac by the way, has, with either Panther or Tiger changed from a default of Shift JIS to UTF-8. I think that MS is gradually changing as well. (However, my wife, who uses Mac, has Windows using friends whom she has to tell to use their view=>encoding menu to read her emails. Mac's mail seems to be able to read any of it transparently, as does sylpheed, which was developed by a Japanese person.) -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 What exactly does buildworld build anyway? If it really does build the world then there's the mother of all bug reports to file somewhere! (It's a FreeBSD joke) _______________________________________________ arch mailing list [email protected] http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
