On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:13:35AM -0800, Richard Gananathan wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:13:24AM -0500, Scott wrote:
> > > I can read his messages in mutt. My problem is sending messages. One guy > at the tlug talked about some Japanese patched mutt. I don't see an Arch > package/build for it and I have a feeling it is very old. These messages are received on his keitai, correct? > I guess you don't know how to send messages in that encoding with > mutt.(Or maybe I wasn't paying attention to what you were saying.) It would be a matter of setting your LC_CTYPE, but I don't know if Arch has ISO-2022 as a locale. Looking at FreeBSD's Japanese mutt it seems as if the only unusual config argument is use default Japanese. (However, I don't think FreeBSD has ISO-2022 either.) I don't know how much you feel like getting into this, but since it seems as if it's a circle of friends, have someone who sends a message to his keitai (cell phone for anyone following this thread) send you a message too. Then, check the charset. I would ~think~ that the keitai can read SJIS since that's the MS default, at least on English language systems using Japanese. However, I believe that Arch only has EUC and UTF-8 for Japanese. There have been other discussions on tlug about keitais, and sending and receiving, but I believe (IIRC) that the people involved were using kmail and the like. Depending upon the strength of your Japanese, you might want to check out some Japanese language mailling list. There is also tlug, someone might be able to help you there. Oddly enough, I do remember some comments on tlug that Japan is lagging behind others in accepting UTF-8. However, as I think I've said in this thread, later versions of Mac default to UTF-8 with Mac Mail in Japanese, and Japan probably does have more Mac users than many countries. (But maybe they're all using OS9.) :) I realize he's a senpai, but remember giri (obligation) goes up as well as down. :) (Yeah, I know, easier to say than to do.) > > I should say that I could try my host family's keitai. They have DoCoMo > and Vodafone though. But if they send messsages in iso-2022 (I think they > should.) then it should be ok to test with. Do that, and also try with sylpheed. > > I have no knowledge about this stuff though, my LC_CTYPE is set to > ja_JP.utf-8. (according to your scim tutorial) But how would I send > messages in this format? In ISO-2022? We nag Tobias (is he handling locales?) to add it. :) However, as I've said, some of the GTK apps, such as xchat (hrrm, I haven't used that in years, is it a GTK app?) use it independently of the O/S. For example, I do remember xchat using ISO-2022 even though I was running FreeBSD and I think I had, at the time, set my LC_CTYPE to EUC. It is still complicated--that is, there are still too many forms of encoding, a problem that UTF-8 is trying to solve. Even MS is supposedly gradually moving over to UTF-8, and if they do, then it will become the standard. Whether we like it or not, it's still an MS world, and their conventions become de facto standards, even when they violate the RFCs. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Angel: I'm weak. I've never been anything else. I wanted to lose myself in you. I know it will cost me my soul, and part of me didn't care. It's not the demon in me that needs killing, Buffy, it's the man. _______________________________________________ arch mailing list [email protected] http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
