On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:24:59PM -0800, Richard Gananathan wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:07:11AM -0500, Scott wrote:
> > ! iconv -f whatever -t utf-8
> > 
> I have found the culprit! It seems to be neither unicode or Shift-JIS
> but it is 'iso-2022-jp'. Now how would I get my messages sent in that?
> 
ISO-2022-JP is a common encoding for Japanese.  Actually, if you go on
freenode #nihongo, there will be a message, ISO-2022 only.   (I think
that's the channel and server, but there is a channel like that.)

IIRC, xchat will encode in ISO-2022 as will some other GTK apps.  So, it
probably defaulted to that.  

You should be able to read that though in mutt--at least, I'm able to
read ISO-2022 in mutt with mlterm--and I believe, I might have to set my
LC_CTYPE to ja_JP.utf-8, but my memory is hazy.  I do remember there was
a problem with mutt-ng in FreeBSD, because it wasn't building properly
with slang, I had to use curses, and therefore, a non-UTF-8 message made
me errm, curse.  <ducks and runs>.


> 
> You got it right, he is my sempai. Though he doesn't make fun of me so
> much. I wonder if I'll be brave enough to send the message now. Too bad
> I don't have a KDDI phone to test it.
> 
Just to answer posts that came up afterwards, a senpai (pronounced
sempai, but written in hiragana with with N)  :)  is a senior--it could
be a mentor, a student ahead of you at school, just someone more
experienced than you.  

> and many people think that me using Linux is the cause of
> incompatibility problems. Maybe you won't understand, but I don't like
> to show screw ups like that. It gives Linux a bad name.

In 5 years, when they are pwNed by MS, they'll understand.   :)
Seriously, I do understand.  Perhaps you can find another friend with a
KDDI phone who might let you test.  So, his messages are sent in
ISO-2022... I don't think Arch offers that locale right now.  

> > a mutt page too, http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/mutt.html)  
> 
> Well would you look at that, I follow the link only to find the page
> familiar. I found your mutt page on a google search. The one in the
> Archwiki didn't seem to work for me but I got mutt working with the help
> from your page. Thanks again.
> 

(Modest bow, muttering iie, iie, tonde mo nai)  There's also one on
using mutt with gmail.   :)  

http://www.scottro.net/qnd/qnd-gmail.html

(As I've been doing a lot of work with that machine, it's not always
available, but most of the time it is reachable.)


> > Asian character support has come a LOOOONG way.  If you can find it,
> > take a look at Mr. Oda's Japanese in Linux howto from 1997 or so, and
> > see how difficult it used to be.  
> >
> 
> Luckily I can't find it.
>  

Heh, tlug keeps it up.

http://www.tlug.jp/craigoda/writings/linux-nihongo

It's interesting to look at it.  Just the installation chapter makes you
realize how it's advanced.


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Scott Robbins

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