Hi Altin, I just uploaded a new .po file that has 232 strings. Hopefully this helps. Cheers, Alexei
Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173 On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Alexei Peters <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Altin, > You're exactly right. I'm sorry I didn't confirm that before. > I'm looking into this right now and I'll upload the new .po file soon. > Cheers, > Alexei > > > Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173 > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Altin Ukshini <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Alexei, >> >> I apologize, I missed a comma in my question, and that must have confused >> you. >> >> We saw those strings, but those are only about django (django.po file), >> strings that are part of the arches platform which runs on django. I was >> talking about the arches strings (just like the ones I referred to with the >> link of arches 1 in transifex). >> >> I believe there must be more than 40 strings in the whole platform? >> >> Let me look at the source code, maybe I can find the localization files >> in there and then just ask you to upload them in transifex. >> >> Best, >> Altin >> >> Sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos. >> On Jun 24, 2015 5:39 PM, "Alexei Peters" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Altin, >>> I think you can find what you want here: >>> https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/arches3/translate/#sq/$/51026898 >>> If that's not right please let me know. >>> Cheers, >>> Alexei >>> >>> >>> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173 >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Altin Ukshini <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Alexei, >>>> >>>> Thanks for helping! >>>> >>>> We plan to use the official code only (sq). >>>> I see you only uploaded the django.po file, but that is not all right? >>>> >>>> We need to translate the arches strings, where can we find those? >>>> Something like: >>>> https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/arches-1/viewstrings/#de/en-usjson-2/19202404 >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Altin >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Altin Ukshini* >>>> *President of the Executive Board* >>>> >>>> >>>> *FLOSSK (Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova)* >>>> +386 (0) 49 199 992 | [email protected] | about.me/altinukshini >>>> >>>> Latest project: >>>> >>>> * <http://prishtinahackerspace.org>* >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Alexei Peters <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Altin, >>>>> I've added Arianit to the Transifex site. I also noticed that 2 >>>>> Albanian language codes we're requested (sq, sq_AL). Are you planning on >>>>> using both forms or can we remove one? >>>>> I've added the required resources. Let me know if you need anything >>>>> else. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Alexei >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - >>>>> 971.227.3173 >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:13 AM, Altin Ukshini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Alexei, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for helping, I see there are no resources for translation, >>>>>> should I go ahead and add them, or you were planning to do that? >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you please also add my friend Arianit: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Altin >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Altin Ukshini* >>>>>> *President of the Executive Board* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *FLOSSK (Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova)* >>>>>> +386 (0) 49 199 992 | [email protected] | about.me/altinukshini >>>>>> >>>>>> Latest project: >>>>>> >>>>>> * <http://prishtinahackerspace.org>* >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Alexei Peters <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Altin, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a transifex project for arches v3.0 at the following url. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/arches3/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I added you to the project for both the Albanian core language (sq) >>>>>>> as well as the dialect (sq_AL). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me know if you need anything else. >>>>>>> By the way, there is a package ( >>>>>>> https://www.caktusgroup.com/blog/2013/04/25/managing-django-translations-transifex/) >>>>>>> that integrate django (the platform Arches uses) and Transifex that >>>>>>> should >>>>>>> help smooth the process of managing the .po files. >>>>>>> Hope that helps, >>>>>>> Alexei >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - >>>>>>> 971.227.3173 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Altin Ukshini < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey there, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Congrats on rolling out the Arches v3.0 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My team and I are willing to translate it into Albanian. >>>>>>>> So far I only found this link for Arches translation and I believe >>>>>>>> it's outdated: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/arches-1/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can you guys assist on this? - Is there any other way rather than >>>>>>>> the link above, send us the .po files or create a new project in >>>>>>>> transifex? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Altin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> *Altin Ukshini* >>>>>>>> *President of the Executive Board* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *FLOSSK (Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova)* >>>>>>>> +386 (0) 49 199 992 | [email protected] | >>>>>>>> about.me/altinukshini >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Latest project: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * <http://prishtinahackerspace.org>* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Altin Ukshini < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey David, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for the details. >>>>>>>>> Is there any beta/alpha v3.0 available online for testing? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Altin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> *Altin Ukshini* >>>>>>>>> *President of the Executive Board* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *FLOSSK (Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova)* >>>>>>>>> +386 (0) 49 199 992 | [email protected] | >>>>>>>>> about.me/altinukshini >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Latest project: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * <http://prishtinahackerspace.org>* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:07 AM, David Myers <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Altin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I thought I would add a few things to what Alexei has said. >>>>>>>>>> Regarding translation of the user interface, if you haven't already >>>>>>>>>> seen it >>>>>>>>>> I would recommend looking at the Arches System Concept Glossary at >>>>>>>>>> http://archesproject.org/glossary/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And regarding your question "is there a full list of those >>>>>>>>>> Resource Types that we could translate and use for our monuments", I >>>>>>>>>> wonder >>>>>>>>>> whether you might be referring to the controlled vocabularies within >>>>>>>>>> Arches >>>>>>>>>> for populating dropdown values within data fields. Examples in >>>>>>>>>> Arches v. >>>>>>>>>> 2.0 include Architectural Heritage Type and Cultural Period Type. If >>>>>>>>>> so, >>>>>>>>>> then I should first say that all controlled vocabularies are >>>>>>>>>> completely >>>>>>>>>> configurable according to the specific needs of a given Arches >>>>>>>>>> implementation. In fact, we expect that many or most of the default >>>>>>>>>> authority files that come with Arches will need to be modified to >>>>>>>>>> make them >>>>>>>>>> relevant to a given implementation. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For the current version of Arches (2.0), I would recommend >>>>>>>>>> reading in the Installation Guide, within the section of "The Core >>>>>>>>>> Data >>>>>>>>>> Standard Package," the subsection called "Authority Documents." >>>>>>>>>> Within that >>>>>>>>>> subsection there is a topic called "Modifying the Default Authority >>>>>>>>>> Files" >>>>>>>>>> that will explain how to configure the authority files (which are CSV >>>>>>>>>> files) to meet your own needs, whether by modifying the default >>>>>>>>>> authority >>>>>>>>>> files or replacing them completely. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I should also mention that Arches version 3.0 will have a >>>>>>>>>> significant new feature called the Reference Data Manager (RDM) that >>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>> enable the management of all controlled vocabularies through the >>>>>>>>>> Arches >>>>>>>>>> user interface rather than having to go through the process of >>>>>>>>>> modifying >>>>>>>>>> CSV files for each authority document. This will make the >>>>>>>>>> configuration >>>>>>>>>> process much easier. There are a number of other great technical >>>>>>>>>> advantages >>>>>>>>>> of the RDM which I won't go into now. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> David Myers >>>>>>>>>> Arches Project Team >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> On 10/2/2014 at 10:01 AM, in message < >>>>>>>>>> ca+zlqy-k53jtjpajuzmastlvuh4x_5fzhv2sghugbzsofae...@mail.gmail.com>, >>>>>>>>>> Alexei Peters <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Altin, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here are the steps you'd need to take to translate the site. >>>>>>>>>> First and foremost, the strings on the Transifex site are only a >>>>>>>>>> subset of the strings used in the actual site. For a complete >>>>>>>>>> translation >>>>>>>>>> you'd need to go to the effort of locating the remaining strings and >>>>>>>>>> uploading them to Transifex. >>>>>>>>>> Translate all the strings on the Transifex site >>>>>>>>>> Download the now translated strings from Transifex and write a >>>>>>>>>> script to add those strings into the i18n table in the database >>>>>>>>>> As you can see, translating the site isn't a trivial task, but >>>>>>>>>> it's doable. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As to the question of Resource Types, Arches by itself doesn't >>>>>>>>>> supply the types of resources it manages. It's the package that >>>>>>>>>> handles >>>>>>>>>> that. That's why you didn't see any resource types until you loaded >>>>>>>>>> the CDS >>>>>>>>>> package. >>>>>>>>>> An alternative would be to create your own package and customize >>>>>>>>>> it to your liking (you can reference the CDS package as a guide). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Btw, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that there is currently an >>>>>>>>>> effort to deliver Arches v3. This version of Arches which should be >>>>>>>>>> available early next year (Jan-Feb) is an huge departure from v2. >>>>>>>>>> Particularly in the way the site can be localized. Packages will be >>>>>>>>>> structured very similarly, but the UI will be completely re-imagined >>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>> Bootstrap and server-side templates as opposed to using the ExtJS >>>>>>>>>> client-side widgets that are used currently. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hope that helps some. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Alexei >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - >>>>>>>>>> 971.227.3173 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Altin Ukshini < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Alexei, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I just did a re-install from scratch. I think I missed a step >>>>>>>>>> somewhere - Maybe when I wrote the database password, I must have >>>>>>>>>> written >>>>>>>>>> the system user password... not sure. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you please guide me on the translation procedure a bit. I >>>>>>>>>> already requested for the Albanian translation on Transifex... >>>>>>>>>> And how about the Resource Types? I didn't get any Resource Types >>>>>>>>>> installed by defaul without including the CDS package from the >>>>>>>>>> installation >>>>>>>>>> guide. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is there a way to add them separately without the CDS package, >>>>>>>>>> and is there a full list of those Resource Types that we could >>>>>>>>>> translate >>>>>>>>>> and use for our monuments ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Altin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Altin UkshiniPresident of the Executive Board >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FLOSSK (Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +386 (0) 49 199 992 ( tel:%2B386%20%280%29%2049%20199%20992 ) | >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] | about.me/altinukshini >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Latest project: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ( http://prishtinahackerspace.org ) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Alexei Peters <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That's great to hear Altin! Could you share with the group what >>>>>>>>>> the issue was and it resolution? >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Alexei >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - >>>>>>>>>> 971.227.3173 ( tel:971.227.3173 ) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:31 AM, Altin Ukshini < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes I did. >>>>>>>>>> I'm looking forward now to start the Albanian translation and >>>>>>>>>> will need to understand the Monument Types which need to be added by >>>>>>>>>> importing CDS data only? >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Altin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos. >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 30, 2014 6:47 AM, "Alexei Peters" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Altin, >>>>>>>>>> Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Have you resolved this >>>>>>>>>> error? >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Alexei >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - >>>>>>>>>> 971.227.3173 ( tel:971.227.3173 ) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Altin Ukshini < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ok, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm almost done, but got stuck here (pic attached) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The loading bar keeps loading, and I think that's bcs of these >>>>>>>>>> errors shown in the pic. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any idea ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Altin >>>>>>>>>> _ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Altin UkshiniPresident of the Executive Board >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FLOSSK (Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +386 (0) 49 199 992 ( tel:%2B386%20%280%29%2049%20199%20992 ) | >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] | about.me/altinukshini >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Latest project: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ( http://prishtinahackerspace.org ) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Alexei Peters < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Altin, >>>>>>>>>> Can you verify that you have these files on disk: >>>>>>>>>> archesproject/virtualenv/ENV/bin/activatearchesproject >>>>>>>>>> /db/Deployment Scripts/Restore.shThe ENV directory, Restore.sh and >>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>> other items are created when you run install_dependencies. >>>>>>>>>> If your system doesn't have those items then install_dependencies >>>>>>>>>> didn't run correctly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Alexei >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - >>>>>>>>>> 971.227.3173 ( tel:971.227.3173 ) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Altin Ukshini < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes I did run that Alexei! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Altin UkshiniPresident of the Executive Board >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FLOSSK (Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +386 (0) 49 199 992 ( tel:%2B386%20%280%29%2049%20199%20992 ) | >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] | about.me/altinukshini >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Latest project: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ( http://prishtinahackerspace.org ) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Alexei Peters < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Altin, >>>>>>>>>> Have you run the script at >>>>>>>>>> archesproject/install/install_dependencies.sh? >>>>>>>>>> Try that if you haven't. >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Alexei >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - >>>>>>>>>> 971.227.3173 ( tel:971.227.3173 ) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Altin Ukshini < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey Guys, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm running an Ubuntu server 12.04, following this guide >>>>>>>>>> http://arches.readthedocs.org/en/latest/05%20Installing%20Arches%20on%20Linux/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I initially got stuck at STEP 3 under: >>>>>>>>>> source runserver.sh >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ok, the first problem I have was that I was missing the following: >>>>>>>>>> django.core.management that couldn't be imported. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I decided to go ahead and do a pip install django v1.6 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After that, source runserver.sh started but the following problem >>>>>>>>>> shows up. >>>>>>>>>> -bash: archesproject/virtualenv/ENV/bin/activate: No such file or >>>>>>>>>> directory >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However the rest of the output is: >>>>>>>>>> Validating models... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 0 errors found >>>>>>>>>> September 24, 2014 - 21:38:20 >>>>>>>>>> Django version 1.6, using settings 'archesproject.settings' >>>>>>>>>> Starting development server at http://127.0.0.1:8000/ >>>>>>>>>> Quit the server with CONTROL-C. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And when I follow STEP 4, I also get: >>>>>>>>>> :~/arches-web/arches-arches-6127ba016596/archesproject/build$ >>>>>>>>>> source install_arches_db.sh >>>>>>>>>> -bash: virtualenv/ENV/bin/activate: No such file or directory >>>>>>>>>> Setting up base path locations for db scripts >>>>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>>>>>>>>> File "../manage.py", line 28, in <module> >>>>>>>>>> execute_from_command_line(sys.argv) >>>>>>>>>> File >>>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/django/core/management/__init__.py", >>>>>>>>>> line 399, in execute_from_command_line >>>>>>>>>> utility.execute() >>>>>>>>>> File >>>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/django/core/management/__init__.py", >>>>>>>>>> line 392, in execute >>>>>>>>>> self.fetch_command(subcommand).run_from_argv(self.argv) >>>>>>>>>> File >>>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/django/core/management/__init__.py", >>>>>>>>>> line 272, in fetch_command >>>>>>>>>> klass = load_command_class(app_name, subcommand) >>>>>>>>>> File >>>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/django/core/management/__init__.py", >>>>>>>>>> line 75, in load_command_class >>>>>>>>>> module = import_module('%s.management.commands.%s' % (app_name, >>>>>>>>>> name)) >>>>>>>>>> File >>>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/django/utils/importlib.py", >>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>> 40, in import_module >>>>>>>>>> __import__(name) >>>>>>>>>> File >>>>>>>>>> "/home/prnhs-server1/arches-web/arches-arches-6127ba016596/archesproject/build/management/commands/build.py", >>>>>>>>>> line 28, in <module> >>>>>>>>>> from jsmin import jsmin >>>>>>>>>> ImportError: No module named jsmin >>>>>>>>>> Installing the database >>>>>>>>>> chmod: cannot access `db/Deployment Scripts/Restore.sh': No such >>>>>>>>>> file or directory >>>>>>>>>> -bash: db/Deployment Scripts/Restore.sh: No such file or directory >>>>>>>>>> deactivate: command not found >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can anyone help me figure this out? I'd very much appreciate any >>>>>>>>>> help. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> P.S - Sorry for pasting text on the email... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>> Altin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> -- To post, send email to [email protected]. To >>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] ( mailto: >>>>>>>>>> archesproject%[email protected] ). 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