On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Srinath Perera <srin...@wso2.com> wrote:

> I think this happen with ESB NIO transport and Servelt transport for
> webapps. ( Nuwan, is there other examples?).
>

In the regsitry.xml, we configure the indexers and handlers. These again
are only required in certain profiles. There are also some configs in the
api-manager.xml which only makes sense to enable in certain profiles.

>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Kishanthan Thangarajah <
> kishant...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>> Current issue is that all bundles and artifacts (conf files, webapps) are
>> common to the server which are shared among all the profiles. We don't have
>> a way to delete and modify them when starting up a profile.
>>
>> One other option is we could pack everything (profile specific artifacts)
>> in the base distribution and provide a build script (ant) which create
>> profile specific runtime a.
>>
>> We will check for the other alternatives along with this PoC and see.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We proposed an idea to build a pack based on a profile. That will
>>> contain only the essential stuff. So rather than starting up a runtime and
>>> then loading a profile, you build a pack that contains the bare
>>> minimum stuff required. Perhaps we can have a descriptor which describes
>>> what non-OSGi stuff are required for a profile and we can combine that with
>>> the OSGi bundles.info to figure out exactly what is needed. Can someone
>>> in the kernel team do a quick PoC?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Srinath Perera <srin...@wso2.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Smaeera, are these things we can fix?
>>>>
>>>> --Srinath
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Nuwan Dias <nuw...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is to raise some concerns over the current server profiles.
>>>>> Although we are able to control the bundles which are loaded to the 
>>>>> runtime
>>>>> based on the -Dprofile parameter, we still lack the ability of removing
>>>>> files and modifying configuration files when the server starts on a
>>>>> profile. And this is forcing us to start unnecessary bundles at startup.
>>>>> Let me explain...
>>>>>
>>>>> API Manager has both webapps and a gateway in its distribution. The
>>>>> synapse bundles are only required in the Gateway profiles. However since
>>>>> the axis2.xml file of API Manager defines the http transport senders and
>>>>> receivers based on the Synapse passthrough senders and receivers, the 
>>>>> axis2
>>>>> engine will try to load the synapse classes on startup. Ideally if we were
>>>>> able to modify the axis2.xml on the Publisher, Store and Key Manager
>>>>> profiles and replace the passthrough senders and receivers with our
>>>>> standard http senders and receivers, we could avoid loading the synapse
>>>>> bundles on the Publisher, Store and Key Manager.
>>>>>
>>>>> The same problem occurs for registry indexers and handlers. Since the
>>>>> registry indexers and handlers are configured on the registry.xml, even
>>>>> though these are only required in the publisher and store profiles, these
>>>>> bundles will be activated and running even on the Gateway, Key Manager and
>>>>> Traffic Manager. So unless we modify the registry.xml on those nodes
>>>>> manually, we can't stop those bundles from running.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another problem we're facing is the inability to remove webapps. Since
>>>>> all webapps in the repository/deployment/server/webapps and
>>>>> repository/deployment/server/jaggeryapps are deployed into the
>>>>> runtime, unless we remove these webapps manually there is no other way to
>>>>> stop them from being deployed in unrelated profiles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I heard there is a discussion to bind a profile to a container. Which
>>>>> would solve these problems. However it still won't help the 
>>>>> "non-container"
>>>>> deployments. Are there ways to overcome the above mentioned limitations 
>>>>> and
>>>>> enhance the efficiency of our profiles?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> NuwanD.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Nuwan Dias
>>>>>
>>>>> Software Architect - WSO2, Inc. http://wso2.com
>>>>> email : nuw...@wso2.com
>>>>> Phone : +94 777 775 729
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ============================
>>>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>>>>    http://people.apache.org/~hemapani/
>>>>    http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Kishanthan Thangarajah*
>> Technical Lead,
>> Platform Technologies Team,
>> WSO2, Inc.
>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> *Kishanthan Thangarajah*
>> Technical Lead,
>> Platform Technologies Team,
>> WSO2, Inc.
>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>
>> Mobile - +94773426635
>> Blog - *http://kishanthan.wordpress.com
>> <http://kishanthan.wordpress.com>*
>> Twitter - *http://twitter.com/kishanthan <http://twitter.com/kishanthan>*
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ============================
> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>    http://people.apache.org/~hemapani/
>    http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
>



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email : nuw...@wso2.com
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