Hi All,

We can categorize all the files which need to be handled by profiles into
three groups.


*1) OSGi repository *

   - *Location:* repository/components
   - *Description:* Contains all the OSGi bundles, dropins artifacts and
   other required files. This repository is already organized into multiple
   profiles(if any).


*2) Config repository*

   - *Location:* repository/conf
   - *Description: Contains configuration files of the products. We need to
   figure out a way handle profile specific configuration files.*


*3) Artifact repository*

   - *Location*: repository/deployment
   - *Description*: Contains deployment artifacts of the product. We need
   to figure out a way to handle profile specific deployment artifacts.


Shariq from the platform team will work on this.

Thanks,
Sameera.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Nuwan Dias <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think this happen with ESB NIO transport and Servelt transport for
>> webapps. ( Nuwan, is there other examples?).
>>
>
> In the regsitry.xml, we configure the indexers and handlers. These again
> are only required in certain profiles. There are also some configs in the
> api-manager.xml which only makes sense to enable in certain profiles.
>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Kishanthan Thangarajah <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Current issue is that all bundles and artifacts (conf files, webapps)
>>> are common to the server which are shared among all the profiles. We don't
>>> have a way to delete and modify them when starting up a profile.
>>>
>>> One other option is we could pack everything (profile specific
>>> artifacts) in the base distribution and provide a build script (ant) which
>>> create profile specific runtime a.
>>>
>>> We will check for the other alternatives along with this PoC and see.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We proposed an idea to build a pack based on a profile. That will
>>>> contain only the essential stuff. So rather than starting up a runtime and
>>>> then loading a profile, you build a pack that contains the bare
>>>> minimum stuff required. Perhaps we can have a descriptor which describes
>>>> what non-OSGi stuff are required for a profile and we can combine that with
>>>> the OSGi bundles.info to figure out exactly what is needed. Can
>>>> someone in the kernel team do a quick PoC?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Smaeera, are these things we can fix?
>>>>>
>>>>> --Srinath
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Nuwan Dias <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is to raise some concerns over the current server profiles.
>>>>>> Although we are able to control the bundles which are loaded to the 
>>>>>> runtime
>>>>>> based on the -Dprofile parameter, we still lack the ability of removing
>>>>>> files and modifying configuration files when the server starts on a
>>>>>> profile. And this is forcing us to start unnecessary bundles at startup.
>>>>>> Let me explain...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> API Manager has both webapps and a gateway in its distribution. The
>>>>>> synapse bundles are only required in the Gateway profiles. However since
>>>>>> the axis2.xml file of API Manager defines the http transport senders and
>>>>>> receivers based on the Synapse passthrough senders and receivers, the 
>>>>>> axis2
>>>>>> engine will try to load the synapse classes on startup. Ideally if we 
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> able to modify the axis2.xml on the Publisher, Store and Key Manager
>>>>>> profiles and replace the passthrough senders and receivers with our
>>>>>> standard http senders and receivers, we could avoid loading the synapse
>>>>>> bundles on the Publisher, Store and Key Manager.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The same problem occurs for registry indexers and handlers. Since the
>>>>>> registry indexers and handlers are configured on the registry.xml, even
>>>>>> though these are only required in the publisher and store profiles, these
>>>>>> bundles will be activated and running even on the Gateway, Key Manager 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Traffic Manager. So unless we modify the registry.xml on those nodes
>>>>>> manually, we can't stop those bundles from running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another problem we're facing is the inability to remove webapps.
>>>>>> Since all webapps in the repository/deployment/server/webapps and
>>>>>> repository/deployment/server/jaggeryapps are deployed into the
>>>>>> runtime, unless we remove these webapps manually there is no other way to
>>>>>> stop them from being deployed in unrelated profiles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I heard there is a discussion to bind a profile to a container. Which
>>>>>> would solve these problems. However it still won't help the 
>>>>>> "non-container"
>>>>>> deployments. Are there ways to overcome the above mentioned limitations 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> enhance the efficiency of our profiles?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> NuwanD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Nuwan Dias
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Software Architect - WSO2, Inc. http://wso2.com
>>>>>> email : [email protected]
>>>>>> Phone : +94 777 775 729
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ============================
>>>>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>>>>>    http://people.apache.org/~hemapani/
>>>>>    http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Afkham Azeez*
>>>> Director of Architecture; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Kishanthan Thangarajah*
>>> Technical Lead,
>>> Platform Technologies Team,
>>> WSO2, Inc.
>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Kishanthan Thangarajah*
>>> Technical Lead,
>>> Platform Technologies Team,
>>> WSO2, Inc.
>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>
>>> Mobile - +94773426635
>>> Blog - *http://kishanthan.wordpress.com
>>> <http://kishanthan.wordpress.com>*
>>> Twitter - *http://twitter.com/kishanthan
>>> <http://twitter.com/kishanthan>*
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ============================
>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>>    http://people.apache.org/~hemapani/
>>    http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Nuwan Dias
>
> Software Architect - WSO2, Inc. http://wso2.com
> email : [email protected]
> Phone : +94 777 775 729
>



-- 
Sameera Jayasoma,
Software Architect,

WSO2, Inc. (http://wso2.com)
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