Absolutely!  +1

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Jimmy Hess
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:28 PM
To: Frank Bulk
Cc: John Curran; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 
Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Frank Bulk 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
John,  What if Acme Hosting, Inc., located in the Silicon Valley, found a niche
offering virtualized servers for Asian customers who want to have their
Internet-based services hosted more closely to the North American market.

Acme Hosting and their infrastructure are clearly in the U.S., but their
customers are not in the ARIN region.
[snip]

The end user might physically reside in Asia;  however,  if their virtual 
server is being hosted physically in the ARIN region,    and   the hosting 
company's  offices  are in the American region,

THEN  the user is essentially  "coming into the ARIN region" to do business.

I would make the argument,  that these are Asia-based people  Doing business in 
the US,
by virtually coming and buying product from a US-based company;   they might 
not be taking a plane trip into the US to setup the account,  but they are 
calling a US phone number, US-based e-mail address,  or  visiting a US-based 
website.

So while their nationality is Asian,  they may in fact be "US customers"


If the customer is doing business in the ARIN region;   then ARIN should not be 
examining their nationality too deeply,  as long as their full verifiable 
details are gathered  and available for dissemination by ARIN's auditors.

--
-JH

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