The combination of ARIN and this community have forced commodity sales.  Some 
orgs just don't meet the various policies but they still need resources.  What 
do you expect orgs that don't or can't meet the current arbitrary tests to do?  
I think it would be far better for ARIN to be involved in all transfers if only 
because the database would be more accurate.  Also once ARINs pool of ipv4 is 
depleted, since you don't want ARIN to support Commodity sales should ARIN just 
shutdown at that time as almost every transfer will be a commodity transfer?  

Why is everyone so afraid to allow orgs to actually buy and sell the resources 
they have/need within ARIN?  


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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Kargel
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-20: TransferPolicySlow Start 
and Simplified Needs Verification

Mike,
While I accept this as your opinion I do not agree with it.  I still see this 
as a spin to support commodity sales.  
I do not believe IP as commodity is good for either operators, industry or the 
community.  It will however serve as a wealth generator for a select few, which 
again is not the objective of ARIN.  The good or bad of IP as a commodity is 
probably not the discussion though.  I apologize if I generated thread drift.

Whether good or bad, ARIN is not here to support commodity sales.  (<-- that's 
a period at the end of the sentence)

Respectfully,
Kevin


> 
> 
> Hi Kevin,
> 
> ARIN is not supporting network operators by forcing them into more 
> expensive and fraught transfer options.
> Nor by preventing initial allocations via transfer.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 

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