Anyone want to debate why there is any multi homing requirement in 2014? 

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> On Nov 19, 2014, at 22:18, John Von Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Speaking from recent / current experience, the multi-homing requirement is a 
> bit of a challenge for tweener-sized organizations like QxC.  We are too big 
> for underlying fiber carriers to comfortably continue to supply our need for 
> IP addresses but not in the position to carry the financial, technical or 
> operational challenges of multi-homing.  This was a very significant cost 
> commitment for QxC and I can imagine this is not achievable for other 
> like-sized ISPs.  Granted, we are better off for it now but had I known how 
> much of a financial and technical hurdle this really was then I probably 
> would not have done it.  I just needed more IP addresses to continue to grow 
> my biz and would have much rather spent the money and manpower on 
> marketing/sales/customer acquisition.  Multi-homing is a nice-to-have luxury 
> that none of my customers are willing to pay for so it is simply a cost of 
> entry to get the IP addresses we need to continue to grow our customer base. 
>  
> As such, I support dropping multi-homing as a prerequisite for an IP 
> allocation. 
>  
> Thank you,
> John W. Von Stein
> CEO
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> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Richard J. Letts
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:24 PM
> To: Steve King; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Multi-homing justification removed?
>  
> I believe the intent was there.
>  
> orgs that have a justifiable/provable need for a /24 were been restricted by 
> their current/lone provider being unwilling to give them enough address 
> space. Not everyone has the ability to change providers, and  if you can’t 
> change providers then you certainly would not be able to multihome..
>  
> Richard Letts
> 
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Steve King
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:47 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [arin-ppml] Multi-homing justification removed?
>  
> The changes implemented in ARIN-2014-13, specifically the removal of 4.3.2.2, 
> appear to have removed the multi-homing justification for a /24 for end 
> users.  Previously, the need to multi-home, and proof of contracts with 
> multiple upstream providers, was sufficient to justify a /24 to participate 
> in BGP.
>  
> For reassignments from ISPs, the language remains in 4.2.3.6.  Users can 
> justify a /24 via a requirement to multi-home rather than utilization rate.  
> However this revision appears to leave utilization rate as the only criterion 
> for direct end-user assignments.
>  
> Was this the intent or possibly an overlooked side effect of the change?
>  
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> Steve King
> ICON Aircraft
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